Big estates - what workhorse?
Big estates - what workhorse?
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TheInternet

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5,109 posts

184 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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Even the very best Volvo 740s and 940s are getting on a bit now and a replacement is sought, is there anything more modern which comes close to their compelling combination of classless style, reliability and capacity? The only thing I can think of is a Citroen C5, but they fare less well in image and trustworthiness stakes.

Modern safety and refinement requirements seem to have rendered most big cars actually rather small. It seems that even SUV behemoths are no bigger inside. Are those Chrysler hearse-type things very big within?

No vans, flat loading area essential.

Edited by TheInternet on Thursday 7th November 13:59

dooosuk

464 posts

246 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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Mazda 6 estate? Flat loading and have funky rear seats which fold totally flat.

Krikkit

27,727 posts

202 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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Spend a few quid on your big Ovlov, you won't get better in a modern car.

Buy a spare gearbox, do the head gasket and a general refresh for a couple of k and drive it for another 10 years, assuming it's not rusting.

TheInternet

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Thursday 7th November 2013
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dooosuk said:
Mazda 6 estate? Flat loading and have funky rear seats which fold totally flat.
Not bad, but suffers from the seemingly typical problem of boot linings encroaching into useful space. That said, the main problem is the body shape with the sloping roofline, obviously a result of economy-chasing. So modern regulations have not just wrecked the interesting cars, they've wrecked the boring ones too.

dapearson

4,456 posts

245 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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Probably not big enough, but my Avensis (of Y-reg vintage) is pretty good as a family/household shed.

Mountain bike goes in the boot with both wheels off and the rear seats still up. With the rear seats folded down and the bases lifted up the load area is flat.

2.0 VVTi engine is chain driven cams and 35mpg.

longblackcoat

5,047 posts

204 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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Peugeot 807 is huge inside, cheap to buy, and OK to drive. Diesel engines are decent, and you can get a good one from £2k.

James_N

3,252 posts

255 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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Krikkit said:
Spend a few quid on your big Ovlov, you won't get better in a modern car.

Buy a spare gearbox, do the head gasket and a general refresh for a couple of k and drive it for another 10 years, assuming it's not rusting.
my Volvo 940 has had a few issues lately, and now has a problem with blowing a couple of fuses but i agree with this reply. Better the devil you know.

after all, you could get another car and immediately have to spend money on repairs, so better just fixing what you have smile

TheInternet

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184 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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Performance, MPG and price not much of a consideration. High load space volume is best, but really need something capable of carrying large/awkward items, so a big boot with small hatch is no good.

anonymous-user

75 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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Skoda Superb Estate, about as good as modern estate cars get

PeetBee

1,036 posts

276 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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How about VW Passat estate? We have the B5 and it's pretty huge inside with a sensible size hatch for access

MadmanO/T People

908 posts

226 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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I had to retire both my Volvo 240 and 740 due to mysterious electrical issues. I'm driving an 03 VW Passat estate now and can highly recommend it.

abbotsmike

1,033 posts

166 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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Driven a Mondeo saloon that was pretty capacious, i assume the estates have a reasonable amount of space? Alternatively, how expensive are crew cab transits? Driven an 11 plate 9 seat tourneo to wales recently. Lovely thing to drive, loads of space, 6 seats across two rows, and averaged 30+mpg according to the on board computer!

Mr Gearchange

5,892 posts

227 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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Legacy estate is very roomy with the back seats down.
If you go for the Spec B flavour you get a lovely flat-6, 245bhp and permanent AWD

Ours is at 155K now and will never leave our service unless it dies.

dapearson

4,456 posts

245 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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Accord estates are massive.

woody2846

1,369 posts

171 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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Saab 9-5?

TheInternet

Original Poster:

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Thursday 7th November 2013
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TheInternet said:
The main problem is the body shape with the sloping roofline, obviously a result of economy-chasing.
This phenomenon takes hold in earnest late 2000s. Mid-early 2000s estates are still blessed with the lovely flat-back hatches.

Fastdruid

9,258 posts

173 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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dooosuk said:
Mazda 6 estate? Flat loading and have funky rear seats which fold totally flat.
I couldn't find one with decent any kind of decent spec, all seemed cloth interiors with not a lot in the way of gadgets or options.

My suggestion is the one I bought smile Mondeo Mk4 Estate.


Totally cavernous, massive amount of 'spec', quickish (claimed 7.5s to 60), flat load entry and the seats fold totally flat (or don't bother to fold up the lower seats and then it's not quite flat but you get a smidge more length). The inside is a very nice place to sit and it's lovely to drive.




Edited by Fastdruid on Thursday 7th November 15:42

ImpossiblyDaft

399 posts

202 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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If you're after a Volvo-like experience, why not just go for a V70?
Alternative suggestion - Honda Accord.

TheInternet

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Thursday 7th November 2013
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Fastdruid said:
My suggestion is the one I bought smile Mondeo Mk4 Estate.
The Mk3 / Mk4 revision shows the exact problem with the sloping roofline, the Mk3 is much better in this regard, a splendid upright back.

Tyre Tread

10,641 posts

237 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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MonkeyMatt said:
Skoda Superb Estate, about as good as modern estate cars get
Bought one of these (2.0 Diesel 170 DSG) after coming out of a 3.0 Jag XFS and I don't feel too much like I've gone down in the world.

Great car and huge in the back - both rear legroom and the space to cart things around.

Try one - you won't be disappointed