Pitfalls of buying a Japanese import ?
Pitfalls of buying a Japanese import ?
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rlw

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3,521 posts

257 months

Tuesday 16th August 2016
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I've seen a nice C55 I am tempted to buy. Apparently low miles and apparently a FMBSH. But it's Japanese. It has a new V% and MOT having been imported this year but what are the potential problems?

The speedo is metric and will simply have to be changed as the digital readout is too small. Will the lights be OK. Is it likely to speed limited? And so on...

It's just been serviced at MB but I didn't see if there were any advisories. It is a lovely car but I can't help feeling it culd be problematic in some silly ways.

eybic

9,212 posts

194 months

Tuesday 16th August 2016
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I'm only speaking from a 90's rally car kind of Japanese import but the speedo will read in km/h rather than MPH and it may have a 180 km/h speed limiter fitted. It will also need a rear fog light installing.

Apart from that, the spec may be slightly different top a UK car and dealers may scratch their heads for a bit but apart from that it should be ok.

TommoAE86

2,850 posts

147 months

Tuesday 16th August 2016
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I have to admit that getting a MB from Japan seems like an odd thing to do, but I'm guessing it is a spec we never got?

- Harder to verify the MBSH, if you can read Japanese then this is no problem smile
- With the speedo isn't it just that km/h is on the outside and mph on the inside given that it's quite a young car. If so would it be worth changing it around? Could just get used to reading it the other way.
- already answered on the limiter above. The fog you could try and replace one of the reverse lights if it has two and you don't want one of this horrendous looking dangling extra light.

edit: do you know who imported it? Can check their reputation too, also if you have access to the auction sheet (if it went that way) then it's good

Edited by TommoAE86 on Tuesday 16th August 16:53

MyVTECGoesBwaaah

823 posts

162 months

Tuesday 16th August 2016
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A lot less rust, most likely, which is always a plus! smile

Higher insurance costs as well one to think about, with some insurers maybe not wanting to insure it at all? That is sometimes the case with models that were imported and not sold in this country anyway.

runboy

244 posts

201 months

Tuesday 16th August 2016
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Domestic Japanese cars tend not to have underseal and therefore once they hit our roads and salt, rust very quickly. However I wonder if the likes of MB and BMW imports to Japan have the same underseal as if they were destined to the UK?

r11co

6,244 posts

250 months

Tuesday 16th August 2016
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Biggest problem I can see is any in-built infotainment systems. The days of just banging a frequency modifier on to the back of the radio are long gone.

I was looking at a 'bargain' Japanese import E500 and ruled it out completely once I'd factored in the cost of getting the sat nav and radio to work over here.

ZX10R NIN

29,749 posts

145 months

Tuesday 16th August 2016
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I've sen that C55 it looks like a nice one if it's been serviced by Mercedes Benz UK I think they should be able to verify the car's history to a certain extent. Other than that carry out the usual checks.

rlw

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257 months

Tuesday 16th August 2016
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runboy said:
Domestic Japanese cars tend not to have underseal and therefore once they hit our roads and salt, rust very quickly. However I wonder if the likes of MB and BMW imports to Japan have the same underseal as if they were destined to the UK?
Blimey. Hadn't given that a thought....

rlw

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257 months

Tuesday 16th August 2016
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r11co said:
Biggest problem I can see is any in-built infotainment systems. The days of just banging a frequency modifier on to the back of the radio are long gone.

I was looking at a 'bargain' Japanese import E500 and ruled it out completely once I'd factored in the cost of getting the sat nav and radio to work over here.
The Command system was so utterly ste after about a year, I'm surprised any survive. This car has a nice aftermarket media/nav thing it which seems to get Slough so can't be too bad....

ZX10R NIN

29,749 posts

145 months

Tuesday 16th August 2016
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Change the headunit it'll be old tech anyway put a more up to date unit in.


rlw

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3,521 posts

257 months

Tuesday 16th August 2016
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TommoAE86 said:
I have to admit that getting a MB from Japan seems like an odd thing to do, but I'm guessing it is a spec we never got?

- Harder to verify the MBSH, if you can read Japanese then this is no problem smile
- With the speedo isn't it just that km/h is on the outside and mph on the inside given that it's quite a young car. If so would it be worth changing it around? Could just get used to reading it the other way.
- already answered on the limiter above. The fog you could try and replace one of the reverse lights if it has two and you don't want one of this horrendous looking dangling extra light.

edit: do you know who imported it? Can check their reputation too, also if you have access to the auction sheet (if it went that way) then it's good

Edited by TommoAE86 on Tuesday 16th August 16:53
The spec seems pretty much the same but its a car with very low miles compared to most of the UK ones. Also a couple of fancy bits added on too.

KarlMac

4,616 posts

161 months

Tuesday 16th August 2016
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Japanese cars are invariably in better condition that UK cars thanks to their strict Shaken tests and are normally single owner cars.

Ideally you'd want a BIMTA mileage cert and a copy of the auction inspection

Cars manufactured in Japan (for their market) aren't galvanised and don't use underseal (as a rule), but if your car was built here (Europe) and shipped to Japan then chances are this is irrelevant.

Normally Japanese cars have the indicator stalk on the correct side, which is a nice treat smile

I'd.much rather trust a Japanese car than a used uk car.

Löyly

18,192 posts

179 months

Tuesday 16th August 2016
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rlw said:
Blimey. Hadn't given that a thought....
That should always be a prine concern. Something which has survived 20 winters in Japan will look like st after a couple here, if you don't address the underseal. Many importers do a coat as part their process, but never just assume it's been done.

SignalGruen

631 posts

220 months

Tuesday 16th August 2016
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rlw said:
runboy said:
Domestic Japanese cars tend not to have underseal and therefore once they hit our roads and salt, rust very quickly. However I wonder if the likes of MB and BMW imports to Japan have the same underseal as if they were destined to the UK?
Blimey. Hadn't given that a thought....
It will also depend upon how the car was initially supplied in Japan - I've imported a couple of Porsches over the years and one was supplied as Japanese specification and the other was initially supplied to Porsche Italy and was later exported to Japan and hence was an Italian spec car.

WJNB

2,637 posts

181 months

Tuesday 16th August 2016
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People will think you're a cheapskate. Think Butlins v Bahamas, CentreParcs v Caribbean, Vinyl v leather, Skoda v Audi.
Owners of the Eunos suffered such a stigma especially when they first appeared on our roads. With their ugly square rear number plates, whacky colours & weird badges they stood out like a sore thumb.
Do it properly or not all.

TommoAE86

2,850 posts

147 months

Tuesday 16th August 2016
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Yeah my Skyline was undersealed as soon as it landed and given a proper coating. Will have to top it up next year but this year showed no cracking in the goop

55palfers

6,198 posts

184 months

Tuesday 16th August 2016
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I have a Jap G Wagen and thus far all is good.

The underside is as it left the factory, no rust anywhere. At all. Perhaps look to getting it waxoyled though?

New radio and a few small bits and hey-presto MOT and taxed. Don't hold your breath on the DVLA being quick at registering the car.

k-ink

9,070 posts

199 months

Wednesday 17th August 2016
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A mint UK car will be better than an identical condition import. The insurance will be less. There will be proper under seal on a UK car. There wont be mileage issues with regards to the conversion and MOT / service records with the figures jumping up and down (km v mph).

rlw

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3,521 posts

257 months

Wednesday 17th August 2016
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WJNB said:
People will think you're a cheapskate. Think Butlins v Bahamas, CentreParcs v Caribbean, Vinyl v leather, Skoda v Audi.
Owners of the Eunos suffered such a stigma especially when they first appeared on our roads. With their ugly square rear number plates, whacky colours & weird badges they stood out like a sore thumb.
Do it properly or not all.
Bar one stupidly priced UK car, its the most expensive C55 on the market at the moment. And the lowest mileage,

HayesDC2

286 posts

152 months

Wednesday 17th August 2016
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You can buy chips to convert the speedo from kmh to mph, it's a bit odd initially but you soon get used to it. Most are also speed limited to about 120, it's either a hard limit or it will cut the throttle until you slow down to 110 and then let you accelerate again.