Anyone have a 4.2 td land cruiser amazon..or know about them
Discussion
Evening folks.
Thinking about one of these or an older x5.
Will need to occasionally tow my lad's track car on a trailer and plod 34 miles a day on a motorway. We live in the sticks so will bash around and house a large hairy German shepherd also.
I assume they will be bombproof but do under 20mpg or will they do more plodding on the motorway.
Or shall I go default and get an older shape diesel x5...
Thanks in advance chaps!!
Mike
Thinking about one of these or an older x5.
Will need to occasionally tow my lad's track car on a trailer and plod 34 miles a day on a motorway. We live in the sticks so will bash around and house a large hairy German shepherd also.
I assume they will be bombproof but do under 20mpg or will they do more plodding on the motorway.
Or shall I go default and get an older shape diesel x5...
Thanks in advance chaps!!
Mike
Chap I know has an 03 Amazon & cannot be tempted out of it, think it's on about 160k.
He Has a man at his farm service it. Pulls Animal trailers regularly & he sometimes uses it to drive from Wales to London & back in a day.
Everything still works & it still seems to drive like it did when new, think late 80's Classic Range Rover.
His entire 'fleet' is Toyota, or Lexus (except his 1989 911 Turbo Garage Queen)........... Loves them!
He could probably afford almost any new car available today too.
He Has a man at his farm service it. Pulls Animal trailers regularly & he sometimes uses it to drive from Wales to London & back in a day.
Everything still works & it still seems to drive like it did when new, think late 80's Classic Range Rover.
His entire 'fleet' is Toyota, or Lexus (except his 1989 911 Turbo Garage Queen)........... Loves them!
He could probably afford almost any new car available today too.
MJK 24 said:
They're only around 120bhp? 28bhp per litre. With regular oil changes they must be on for 500,000 miles minimum.
The 98' on 100 series with the 4.2TD has just over 200 bhp and is actually not too slow for something so big and heavy. The engines are very under stressed though like you say and will quite happily rumble along for hundreds of thousands of miles with nothing other than maintenance. I've got the earlier 80 series which has the same engine but with no electronics and it averages about 22 - 25 mpg including some pretty heavy towing at times- again fairly respectable considering the power, weight and aerodynamics. Even hammering it doesn't really seem to affect the consumption too badly so the newer 100 series should manage the same if not slightly better depending on how you drive it.
Parts wise - I haven't really needed any, despite being almost 25 year old and worked hard it goes from one annual service/MOT to the next without needing so much as an oil top up. The BFG AT tyres have now covered 100k miles with plenty of tread left and services is cheap enough despite the 11 litres of oil it takes!
After years of Land Rovers I bought my 80 series 12 years ago and they really are in a different league. If it gets written off tomorrow, I'll be buying the cleanest 100 series I can find, almost regardless of the cost.
Edited by snowandrocks on Monday 12th December 21:34
My dad has an E53 X5 (petrol) since new and it's never needed any drivetrain work in the time he's had it. Over 200k now and it's a good thing. I wouldn't call it a ticking timebomb, nor would I suggest it is as reliable as an LC but it's been really good to us, and done some rather taxing stuff for one. Not to mention it will drive a hell of a lot better than an LC.
JakeT said:
My dad has an E53 X5 (petrol) since new and it's never needed any drivetrain work in the time he's had it. Over 200k now and it's a good thing. I wouldn't call it a ticking timebomb, nor would I suggest it is as reliable as an LC but it's been really good to us, and done some rather taxing stuff for one. Not to mention it will drive a hell of a lot better than an LC.
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JakeT said:
My dad has an E53 X5 (petrol) since new and it's never needed any drivetrain work in the time he's had it. Over 200k now and it's a good thing. I wouldn't call it a ticking timebomb, nor would I suggest it is as reliable as an LC but it's been really good to us, and done some rather taxing stuff for one. Not to mention it will drive a hell of a lot better than an LC.
The Amazon is classified by Toyota as a Heavy Duty vehicle and built to commercial standards (as opposed to cars built to consumer standards).
Its not for nothing they are the preferred vehicles for work in arduous conditions where failure is not an option (desert travel, military usage etc).
Was in Marrakech a few weeks back and did a tour up into the Atlas mountains. The Landcruisers were quiet refined, effortless and comfortable. Superb vehicles.
Its not for nothing they are the preferred vehicles for work in arduous conditions where failure is not an option (desert travel, military usage etc).
Was in Marrakech a few weeks back and did a tour up into the Atlas mountains. The Landcruisers were quiet refined, effortless and comfortable. Superb vehicles.
My username is a reference to diesel 80 series landcruisers
I had 9 range rovers then a landcruiser 4.2 tdi
I'll never have another range rover.
I did 80k miles in 5 years, about 40k miles of that was offroad/expedition type stuff
It never let me down.
the 4.2tdi is very unstressed- the same engine in marine config makes 340bhp! in a turbo 80 it makes about 176bhp
the torque from low down is frankly silly.
Big end bearings are the only known waek spot - best to get them changed at 120k or so- takes about 2 hours if that. Then you are set for life.
timing beltchange takes 45 minutes.
I had 9 range rovers then a landcruiser 4.2 tdi
I'll never have another range rover.
I did 80k miles in 5 years, about 40k miles of that was offroad/expedition type stuff
It never let me down.
the 4.2tdi is very unstressed- the same engine in marine config makes 340bhp! in a turbo 80 it makes about 176bhp
the torque from low down is frankly silly.
Big end bearings are the only known waek spot - best to get them changed at 120k or so- takes about 2 hours if that. Then you are set for life.
timing beltchange takes 45 minutes.
V8RX7 said:
Whilst they are reliable and great off road and towing - if it's main job is commuting wouldn't you be better with something else that's better on road ?
Indeed a good point hence my x5 comparison. Must admit I do like BMW as currently bumbling about in an F10 5 series which is a great car but can't squeeze the GSD in (Mrs is having this when I decide what I want to get my arse in) silverback mike said:
V8RX7 said:
Whilst they are reliable and great off road and towing - if it's main job is commuting wouldn't you be better with something else that's better on road ?
Indeed a good point hence my x5 comparison. Must admit I do like BMW as currently bumbling about in an F10 5 series which is a great car but can't squeeze the GSD in (Mrs is having this when I decide what I want to get my arse in) Realistically you're towing what ? 1500kg ?
Most large cars can tow that easily.
If you're planning to keep the car until it dies, then the land cruiser is for you. It can easily last for stupid amounts of miles and good low mileage (100,000 miles) examples do go for £15k. Alternatively, the X5 drives very well too, and the (assumed) budget you would be using for this will get you into a E70. The E70 is a solid car, and if you like your F11 then you will like this too, however you might find it a bit backdated, but thats personal preference.
Both are great for towing, if you are doing serious off-roading then avoid the X5 as the land cruiser performs amazing in this area, but if you want a great tow car that drives well, then the X5 may be for you.
Both are great for towing, if you are doing serious off-roading then avoid the X5 as the land cruiser performs amazing in this area, but if you want a great tow car that drives well, then the X5 may be for you.
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