Very specific requirements

[dieseluser07]

Hi all, another whatcar thread but one with quite specific requirements, i really want a new fiesta st but ideally my budget is 10,000 at the very most so wont get one that fits my requirements.

So i would like:

30mpg plus even giving it a good bit of stick.
Manual (with a stick, no flappy st)
Fun to drive/good handling.
Nice sounding engine with a linear power delivery.
Quick (ideally less than 8 seconds to 60 as a benchmark)
No convertibles.
Petrol
Relatively new (up to 4-5 years old)
Reliable

Apart from the swift sport (think it might be a bit slow and tiring to rev all the time?

Or a abarth 500 (but the handling is slated and is it reliable

I dont have any other ideas

[wemorgan]

BMW 120i or 320i

Edited by wemorgan on Saturday 24th December 11:29

[ANJ91]

Fiesta ST should be in your budget

peugeot 208 gti
mini cooper s
bmw 1 series

[Buff Mchugelarge]

Mx5 and a mortgage deposit.
This PH after all.

[swisstoni]

A Christmas 'What Car?''
God bless us, every one.

[Slow]

wemorgan said:

BMW 120i or 320i

Edited by wemorgan on Saturday 24th December 11:29

I was thinking along these lines but unsure on the price of the ones within his age constraints.

[ecsrobin]

dieseluser07 said:

Or a abarth 500 (but the handling is slated and is it reliable

I can't say I've read anything slating the handling.

Parkers lists the sharp handling as a pro: http://www.parkers.co.uk/abarth/500/

Evo said "Abarth turned out to have a much better ride than the regular car as well as tidier, keener handling, despite retaining an oddly ‘digital’ feel to the electric power steering." that's about the worst comment I can find on handling.

The main criticism is ride height and the steering wheel only being height adjustable but neither affect me.

I'd be looking at finding a good deal on a new swift sport or getting a nearly new one.

[smn159]

ecsrobin said:

I can't say I've read anything slating the handling.

Parkers lists the sharp handling as a pro: http://www.parkers.co.uk/abarth/500/

Evo said "Abarth turned out to have a much better ride than the regular car as well as tidier, keener handling, despite retaining an oddly ‘digital’ feel to the electric power steering." that's about the worst comment I can find on handling.

The main criticism is ride height and the steering wheel only being height adjustable but neither affect me.

I'd be looking at finding a good deal on a new swift sport or getting a nearly new one.

WTF is a "digital feel to the electric power steering"?

[justanother5tar]

Get an ST if you want one.

Look around and you'll get one at your budget.

I paid £11k for mine, 6 months ago. 20k, ST2 with MP215 & FFSH.

[benjijames28]

Audi a3 1.8 TFSI, or even a 2.0 TFSI.

Mines a 09 model, 160bhp , lots of torque, 30mpg real world, and claimed 0 to 60 in 7.6 seconds.

A cheeky remap will take you up to 220bhp, but your mpg will drop accordingly.

[dieseluser07]

benjijames28 said:

Audi a3 1.8 TFSI, or even a 2.0 TFSI.

Mines a 09 model, 160bhp , lots of torque, 30mpg real world, and claimed 0 to 60 in 7.6 seconds.

A cheeky remap will take you up to 220bhp, but your mpg will drop accordingly.

With all due respect, i know this is quite punchy, but is a standard a3 really a hot hatch??

[dieseluser07]

ecsrobin said:

I can't say I've read anything slating the handling.

Parkers lists the sharp handling as a pro: http://www.parkers.co.uk/abarth/500/

Evo said "Abarth turned out to have a much better ride than the regular car as well as tidier, keener handling, despite retaining an oddly ‘digital’ feel to the electric power steering." that's about the worst comment I can find on handling.

The main criticism is ride height and the steering wheel only being height adjustable but neither affect me.

I'd be looking at finding a good deal on a new swift sport or getting a nearly new one.

I will have to have another look, i cant remember it getting more than 3/5 in a lot of well know car magazines or websites

[simoid]

dieseluser07 said:

I will have to have another look, i cant remember it getting more than 3/5 in a lot of well know car magazines or websites

A mate utterly loved his. Have a look at what the negatives are and see if they bother you.

[Ms R.Saucy]

smn159 said:

WTF is a "digital feel to the electric power steering"?

good question , unless they mean it feels that it assists in such a way as to want to sit at points/ in steps rather than be completely smooth

[simoid]

Ms R.Saucy said:

smn159 said:

WTF is a "digital feel to the electric power steering"?

good question , unless they mean it feels that it assists in such a way as to want to sit at points/ in steps rather than be completely smooth

Perhaps it steers like the old PS1 racing games

[ZX10R NIN]

2013 208 GTI 16k

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...

2014 12k

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...

2013 Fiesta ST-2 20k

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...

2013 Alfa Mito QV SBK 20k 170bhp

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...

2014 Corsa VXR 11k 190bhp

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...

[AndrewGP]

I would suggest the n/a Clio 200, something like this one. The only thing it doesn't *quite* achieve is the 30mpg bit, but it's pretty close day to day.

[Nickp82]

[ecsrobin]

dieseluser07 said:

I will have to have another look, i cant remember it getting more than 3/5 in a lot of well know car magazines or websites

Parkers 4.5
Evo 4.0
Autocar 4.0
Car magazine 4.0

Not sure where else you check for reviews?

[dudleybloke]

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...

Hth.