Buying a Pug 207 with No Service History

Buying a Pug 207 with No Service History

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dart-agnan

Original Poster:

33 posts

102 months

Monday 16th January 2017
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Possibly going to see a 57 plate 207 GT 1.6 Diesel tomorrow with 90,000 miles on the clock, and the foreign sounding gentleman on the phone was vague about the service history, claiming it was his girlfriend's car and that she had lost the service book. The car is apparently immaculate inside and out (aren't they all...) and he has claimed he can provide proof of mileage although he didn't say how.

I love the look at it and I am in a rush to buy (Direct Line taking my hire car away from me before they have reimbursed me for the car that's been written off, won't bore you) so I probably don't have time to involve trainee mechanic brother and get him to come down and have a look.

What would you do?


TonyF55

522 posts

221 months

Monday 16th January 2017
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Have you checked the MOT history online ? you need the full reg number for this.

Personally I would probably give it a wide berth, the 1.6 HDI can be problematic.

trickywoo

12,993 posts

245 months

Monday 16th January 2017
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Put the reg in here an see what it says https://www.gov.uk/check-mot-history

If thats OK and it doesn't look fecked when you view it run an HPI and if thats OK and its cheap go for it.

Is the seller a trader do you think?

dart-agnan

Original Poster:

33 posts

102 months

Monday 16th January 2017
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trickywoo said:
Put the reg in here an see what it says https://www.gov.uk/check-mot-history

If thats OK and it doesn't look fecked when you view it run an HPI and if thats OK and its cheap go for it.

Is the seller a trader do you think?
They've hidden the reg in the advert (suspicious?) But that'll be the first thing I do if I like it tomorrow, cheers.

Its a private seller apparently. Haven't seen any reason to think otherwise, although it might be sidewalk seller trying their luck I suppose... the absent girlfriend is a little suspect.. but maybe I'm just being paranoid.

dart-agnan

Original Poster:

33 posts

102 months

Monday 16th January 2017
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TonyF55 said:
Have you checked the MOT history online ? you need the full reg number for this.

Personally I would probably give it a wide berth, the 1.6 HDI can be problematic.
Will do as soon as I see it, reg is covered in advert.

What problems do you know about? I've checked it on Parkers and not come across anything in particular yet.

Toaster Pilot

14,761 posts

173 months

Monday 16th January 2017
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Don't buy a 1.6 HDI with full service history that isn't being sold by a dodgy driveway trader with a bks back story, never mind one with all of the above, FFS

dxg

9,414 posts

275 months

Monday 16th January 2017
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Don't get invested in any particular car.

Stop visualising yourself driving that particular car.

There is always another car out there...

scjgreen

594 posts

149 months

Monday 16th January 2017
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Wouldnt touch it!

dart-agnan

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33 posts

102 months

Monday 16th January 2017
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Toaster Pilot said:
Don't buy a 1.6 HDI with full service history that isn't being sold by a dodgy driveway trader with a bks back story, never mind one with all of the above, FFS
Why though... what's wrong with them? Not the driveway trader of course

Toaster Pilot

14,761 posts

173 months

Monday 16th January 2017
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They're woefully unreliable and a 2007 one will just be getting to the horribly fked stage of its life if it isn't already there.

dart-agnan

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33 posts

102 months

Monday 16th January 2017
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dxg said:
Don't get invested in any particular car.

Stop visualising yourself driving that particular car.

There is always another car out there...
Thing is, there isn't though. I have no transport after Thursday (fking insurance company) and if I don't pick something up before then I'm buggered.

dart-agnan

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33 posts

102 months

Monday 16th January 2017
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Toaster Pilot said:
They're woefully unreliable and a 2007 one will just be getting to the horribly fked stage of its life if it isn't already there.
Are they though...? I've been doing the usual googling for owner reviews, and having had a 206 they don't seem to be any worse. Have you got personal experience? If its a shed obviously I won't bother, but I don't want to not buy something because of unsubstantiated horror stories, if you get me..

Toaster Pilot

14,761 posts

173 months

Monday 16th January 2017
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Rent a car for a week or buy a £100 stter with MoT for a couple of weeks whilst you find something decent?

Toaster Pilot

14,761 posts

173 months

Monday 16th January 2017
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dart-agnan said:
Are they though...? I've been doing the usual googling for owner reviews, and having had a 206 they don't seem to be any worse. Have you got personal experience? If its a shed obviously I won't bother, but I don't want to not buy something because of unsubstantiated horror stories, if you get me..
I've been in the trade for a few years now and have had enough experience with 1.6 HDIs to know never to touch them again.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

141 months

Monday 16th January 2017
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dart-agnan said:
Are they though...? I've been doing the usual googling for owner reviews, and having had a 206 they don't seem to be any worse. Have you got personal experience? If its a shed obviously I won't bother, but I don't want to not buy something because of unsubstantiated horror stories, if you get me..
It's a 1.6HDi. It's a time bomb. Google for the injector and turbo problems with them. They NEED regular oil changes with the right oil to stand a chance of being anything other than a nightmare.

dart-agnan

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33 posts

102 months

Monday 16th January 2017
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Toaster Pilot said:
Rent a car for a week or buy a £100 stter with MoT for a couple of weeks whilst you find something decent?
That's not a bad idea buying a crappy one for a bit tbh. Can probably sell it for what I paid for it. Ta for the heads up re the 1.6 diesels. Shame I really liked that car..

confused_buyer

6,822 posts

196 months

Monday 16th January 2017
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The 1.6HDI is usually OK as long as it has had regular, 12000 miles or less, oil changes using the proper low SAPS fully synthetic oil and the injector seals haven't been allowed to leak.

They do not take neglect at all well and old oil or leaking injectors causes them to carbon up in a horrible way leading to turbo failure and all sorts of on going problems.

Toaster Pilot

14,761 posts

173 months

Monday 16th January 2017
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Can often hire a Fiat 500 size car from Thrifty for £70 a week if you book online - might give you some breathing space.

powerstroke

10,283 posts

175 months

Monday 16th January 2017
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dart-agnan said:
Why though... what's wrong with them? Not the driveway trader of course
Turbo and DPF issues even when there is 100% service history, not an engine that will take much abuse like missed services or poor quality oil
sounds like one to run a mile from unless its dirt cheap!!!

dart-agnan

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33 posts

102 months

Monday 16th January 2017
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Toaster Pilot said:
Can often hire a Fiat 500 size car from Thrifty for £70 a week if you book online - might give you some breathing space.
That's really good to know, takes the pressure off trying to find something this week.

As an update, seller has just emailed me to say Peugeot will have the FSH of the car and I can request it from them. Sounds a bit scammy.. or maybe I'm just cynical.