E82 135i lowest price point? [1st gen [Coupes]]

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When will E82 135is bottom out in price? I'd like to get one but I'm not sure how low they will go. As it's not a 'serious' car I can wait a while.

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[kambites]

I can't really see a reason for them to not to fall to shed money in the end. They're not particularly rare and were directly replaced.

[bodhi]

Looking at prices of other hot 1-Series from that generation I don't think you will lose too much - the cheapest 130i in the Classifieds is still over 6.5K, and prices of 125i Coupes are a couple of grand less than when I bought mine 3 years ago.

[aeropilot]

kambites said:

I can't really see a reason for them to not to fall to shed money in the end. They're not particularly rare and were directly replaced.

Not particularly rare..........really?

Given BMW only sold approx. 1250 of them in the UK between 2007-2013, I'd say that's a small enough number to be considered pretty rare.

[aeropilot]

Percent said:

When will E82 135is bottom out in price? I'd like to get one but I'm not sure how low they will go.

I'd say they have already....prices have been constant at the low end and high of the market now for a couple of years.

In between that will see fluctuations as good one become average ones etc., but I'm not seeing any massive change at the top or bottom.

With a limited supply and still sufficient demand, don't expect any change for a good few years yet.

[J4CKO]

Its an interesting one, you can get a 1 series of some description for banger money but the big engined ones seem to hold their money despite not being a proper M car, I think they were comparatively rare compared to 116's and 118D's which are still decent money due to the badge and being a fairly good car, anything fast usually holds some value.

I find that looking at 135's is frustrating, you think as you can get anew one from a broker for 25 grand or not much more, second hand ones will be cheaper, but they arent really and a looking at a nine year old example for 15 grand seems a lot of money compared to that brand new 140i, for example


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-135i-M-SPORT-PERFORM...

vs


https://broadspeed.com/CarView/BMW/1-Series/43432/...


Suppose a 2 series might be a fairer comparison with the coupe but the hatch wasnt about in 2008 and most want the performance, 140 has more power and better spec.

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J4CKO said:

Its an interesting one, you can get a 1 series of some description for banger money but the big engined ones seem to hold their money despite not being a proper M car, I think they were comparatively rare compared to 116's and 118D's which are still decent money due to the badge and being a fairly good car, anything fast usually holds some value.

I find that looking at 135's is frustrating, you think as you can get anew one from a broker for 25 grand or not much more, second hand ones will be cheaper, but they arent really and a looking at a nine year old example for 15 grand seems a lot of money compared to that brand new 140i, for example


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-135i-M-SPORT-PERFORM...

vs


https://broadspeed.com/CarView/BMW/1-Series/43432/...


Suppose a 2 series might be a fairer comparison with the coupe but the hatch wasnt about in 2008 and most want the performance, 140 has more power and better spec.

If you drive them back to back you find out why the 135i are still sought after, plus the rarity factor kicks in. BMW sold more M135i in the first 12 months as they sold E82 135i in 6 years!!
The E82 is a niche product now, the M135/M140 are plentiful in choice, so much more subject to laws of supply and demand, and theres plenty of supply for the demand (plus they were heavily discounted when new and the E82 was not) to see prices dropping to suit.
They market for one isn't really the same as the other.

[J4CKO]

aeropilot said:

J4CKO said:

Its an interesting one, you can get a 1 series of some description for banger money but the big engined ones seem to hold their money despite not being a proper M car, I think they were comparatively rare compared to 116's and 118D's which are still decent money due to the badge and being a fairly good car, anything fast usually holds some value.

I find that looking at 135's is frustrating, you think as you can get anew one from a broker for 25 grand or not much more, second hand ones will be cheaper, but they arent really and a looking at a nine year old example for 15 grand seems a lot of money compared to that brand new 140i, for example


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-135i-M-SPORT-PERFORM...

vs


https://broadspeed.com/CarView/BMW/1-Series/43432/...


Suppose a 2 series might be a fairer comparison with the coupe but the hatch wasnt about in 2008 and most want the performance, 140 has more power and better spec.

If you drive them back to back you find out why the 135i are still sought after, plus the rarity factor kicks in. BMW sold more M135i in the first 12 months as they sold E82 135i in 6 years!!
The E82 is a niche product now, the M135/M140 are plentiful in choice, so much more subject to laws of supply and demand, and theres plenty of supply for the demand (plus they were heavily discounted when new and the E82 was not) to see prices dropping to suit.
They market for one isn't really the same as the other.

Guess not, for me I would be buying the engine/drivetrain really and need some practicality, the looks of the coupe never really grabbed me, 1M aside it looks a bit out of proportion, that swoopy shape doesnt really work at that size of car full I think.

Does the older one drive better ?

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J4CKO said:

Guess not, for me I would be buying the engine/drivetrain really and need some practicality, the looks of the coupe never really grabbed me, 1M aside it looks a bit out of proportion, that swoopy shape doesnt really work at that size of car full I think.

Does the older one drive better ?

So clearly you wouldn't be in the market for a E82 for the reasons you state, in the same way that people seeking the E82 now aren't looking at the F20/F21 for other reasons, despite a perceivably newer car not being that much more money to buy.
Apples and oranges again.
Yes, to many people (me included) the E82 does drive better (pukka hydraulic PAS for example) more tunability with the older N54 engines, DCT option on the later N55 engine cars, and a more raw, chuckable feeling chassis all make the E82 more attractive for many people, in the same way that added practicality, ZF auto, adaptive dampers, better kit, greater availability make the F20/F21 more attractive buy for others.
People that are looking for a E82 aren't looking at F20/F21 and vice-versa.

[J4CKO]

aeropilot said:

J4CKO said:

Guess not, for me I would be buying the engine/drivetrain really and need some practicality, the looks of the coupe never really grabbed me, 1M aside it looks a bit out of proportion, that swoopy shape doesnt really work at that size of car full I think.

Does the older one drive better ?

So clearly you wouldn't be in the market for a E82 for the reasons you state, in the same way that people seeking the E82 now aren't looking at the F20/F21 for other reasons, despite a perceivably newer car not being that much more money to buy.
Apples and oranges again.
Yes, to many people (me included) the E82 does drive better (pukka hydraulic PAS for example) more tunability with the older N54 engines, DCT option on the later N55 engine cars, and a more raw, chuckable feeling chassis all make the E82 more attractive for many people, in the same way that added practicality, ZF auto, adaptive dampers, better kit, greater availability make the F20/F21 more attractive buy for others.
People that are looking for a E82 aren't looking at F20/F21 and vice-versa.

Fair enough, I just thought they were an old 135i, wasnt aware of them being sought after compared to the F20.

Are they more tunable ? I thought they all went to 400 ish bhp with a few mods ? I did ask about the 140i and its tunability as have read conflicting opinions about it being higher compression and less robust but also that the closed deck block allows more boost and that some make 370 on the dyno as standard anyway ?

I have kind of gone off the One series, it seemed like my perfect next car but I had a look in the back of one, just too small really for adult passengers of any size, guess thats the downside of having a longitudinal six cylinder engine in the same space as cars that have mostly transverse fours.