Evo IX MR FQ 360
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Lefty

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I made a decision over the Christmas holidays to sell my Honda Elise S1 and buy an s2 supercharged Elise - something a bit more usable (I do 15k miles /year in my "fun" car). Plus, I find the vtec a bit hard going - to make real progress you have to really work it - which is great when in the mood but a bit wearing when not.

The S1 hasn't sold yet and the s2 I was poised to buy is now not for sale so I've got myself mentally pregnant with the idea of a new car and found myself looking at evo's.

I know, I know, they're totally different cars and not comparable to an Elise in any guise. I'm going to look at a low-mileage FQ360 at the weekend with the intention of driving it. I can't buy it until i sell the s1 though.

Anything in particular to be aware of?

I want a car that feels special. Previous to the S1 I had an e92 m3 which was pretty dull, previous to that an RS6 with 700nags which was awesome but a bit of a one-trick pony and not that fun on wee roads. Previous to that I had a 450bhp Impreza P1 which was amazing - but unreliable.

Is an Evo my ideal car?


Lefty

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p.s. yes I know I'm a fussy bd hehe

cib24

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Absolutely fantastic car but servicing costs and gas mileage will make it way more expensive to run 15,000 miles per year than your Honda-engined Lotus.

rossub

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Thursday 2nd February 2017
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cib24 said:
Absolutely fantastic car but servicing costs and gas mileage will make it way more expensive to run 15,000 miles per year than your Honda-engined Lotus.
If he's run a 700 bhp RS6, I don't think the fuel consumption of the Evo will be an issue smile

HannsG

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Thursday 2nd February 2017
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Are EVO running costs higher than an E46 M3?

Some of mine were fairly high when I had the M3.

Great choice on cars OP

Lefty

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It's in the classifieds here, the blue one wink

Lefty

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rossub said:
cib24 said:
Absolutely fantastic car but servicing costs and gas mileage will make it way more expensive to run 15,000 miles per year than your Honda-engined Lotus.
If he's run a 700 bhp RS6, I don't think the fuel consumption of the Evo will be an issue smile
Quite. In fact, I had the RS6 as my practical car and the p1 as my fun car - the v10 rs6 was actually cheaper to run the Subaru...

Lefty

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I'm aware of 4500 mile oil changes - and 20mpg. I can live with that. I know there can be faults with AYC pumps, what's that, £600?

Any other common issues?

cib24

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True, but did he say he ran the RS6 and Impreza 15,0000 miles per year? If he did then fair play to him.

The Evo isn't really unreliable except for occassional AYC failures that are expensive to replace and body rust. It's just the consumables that get you on these cars. Oil change every 2,000-4,000 miles and spark plug changes every 4,000-8,000 miles, plus all of the fuel it consumes averaging like 18 mpg.


Lefty

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cib24 said:
True, but did he say he ran the RS6 and Impreza 15,0000 miles per year? If he did then fair play to him.

The Evo isn't really unreliable except for occassional AYC failures that are expensive to replace and body rust. It's just the consumables that get you on these cars. Oil change every 2,000-4,000 miles and spark plug changes every 4,000-8,000 miles, plus all of the fuel it consumes averaging like 18 mpg.
I definitely didn't do do 150,000 miles a year hehe

Oil change every 2-4000 miles? I thought it was 4500? 2000 miles would be a pain in the arse.




cib24

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Oops!

Well, true 2,000 miles is excessive if it's just a highway commuter car, but I'm going off experience having owned a few 90s/00s Japanese cars and running them hard with the odd track day every few months. The oil goes pretty black and nasty after about 2,000 miles on a hard driven car but that doesn't mean you won't get more out of a car that is driven more gently on the daily commute.

Lefty

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Probably not much gentle driving. My commute is 80 miles of unclassifieds and b-roads smile

I changed the oil on the p1 every 5k and it was generally ok.

LeighW

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Thursday 2nd February 2017
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Lefty said:
Probably not much gentle driving. My commute is 80 miles of unclassifieds and b-roads smile
80 miles each way, or in total? Either way, you'll be friendly with the local filling station. My Evo VII used to go from 'full' to 'fuel light on' in 150 miles.

WCZ

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Thursday 2nd February 2017
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you won't regret it
low mileage examples are pretty expensive though and you'll pay a premium

Lefty

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No, 40 each way (ish).

What's the fuel tank on an evo 9? 55 litres? So 18mpg would be about 200 miles per tank I guess. I have to refill my Elise at about 230. Much smaller tank obviously but I work beside a shell station and I have points card smile

anonymous-user

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Lefty said:
I made a decision over the Christmas holidays to sell my Honda Elise S1 and buy an s2 supercharged Elise - something a bit more usable (I do 15k miles /year in my "fun" car). Plus, I find the vtec a bit hard going - to make real progress you have to really work it - which is great when in the mood but a bit wearing when not.

The S1 hasn't sold yet and the s2 I was poised to buy is now not for sale so I've got myself mentally pregnant with the idea of a new car and found myself looking at evo's.

I know, I know, they're totally different cars and not comparable to an Elise in any guise. I'm going to look at a low-mileage FQ360 at the weekend with the intention of driving it. I can't buy it until i sell the s1 though.

Anything in particular to be aware of?

I want a car that feels special. Previous to the S1 I had an e92 m3 which was pretty dull, previous to that an RS6 with 700nags which was awesome but a bit of a one-trick pony and not that fun on wee roads. Previous to that I had a 450bhp Impreza P1 which was amazing - but unreliable.

Is an Evo my ideal car?
The EVO IX MR FQ 360 would be a fantastic buy. Will only increase in value while you have amazing fun.

Another possibility would be a good UK Evo 6 Makinen if you can find one.

Perhaps the body graphics are too much biggrin

LeighW

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Thursday 2nd February 2017
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Lefty said:
No, 40 each way (ish).

What's the fuel tank on an evo 9? 55 litres? So 18mpg would be about 200 miles per tank I guess. I have to refill my Elise at about 230. Much smaller tank obviously but I work beside a shell station and I have points card smile
Google says 55 litres - my VII was 48.

Lefty

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Thanks, I did wonder about depreciation, particularly if putting a lot of miles on one. I assume it's the sort of car that people tend to buy on condition rather than miles.

Evo VI - I was a teen in the 90's and have very fond memories of imported Evo V and VI's. I'd love one...but not to use as a daily.


cib24

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Thursday 2nd February 2017
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Sounds like you are prepared for it so I would go for it if you find a nice enough example. I think FQ-360s fetch +/- £20k now depending on condition and miles. The one thing you will have to watch out for when buying and then when owning is rust. Keep the rust off the car by taking the time to properly repair, convert and seal the underbody and arches and you will have a car that should at least retain its value given the mileage you are planning to put on it. But if you let it get rusty the value plummets, and they like to rust.

WCZ

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Thursday 2nd February 2017
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Lefty said:
Thanks, I did wonder about depreciation, particularly if putting a lot of miles on one. I assume it's the sort of car that people tend to buy on condition rather than miles.

Evo VI - I was a teen in the 90's and have very fond memories of imported Evo V and VI's. I'd love one...but not to use as a daily.
condition helps but mileage is a huge factor, truly low miles examples of the 360 go for £40-60,000
the 360 was the best of a legendary car and is now desirable to collectors