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I'm after a new Golf and have a particular spec in mind but I don't want to wait 3-4 months so I'm limited to whatever the dealers have in stock. I've spoken with a handful and they've pretty much come back with the line that there isn't anything available to match what I want. However, I have spoken to one dealer that does have what I want, albeit he won't come up with a suitable deal at the moment.
So, is it a case that a dealer can only see what is in his group's stock or is it that most of them can't be bothered looking?
So, is it a case that a dealer can only see what is in his group's stock or is it that most of them can't be bothered looking?
Usually they'll only go with what's in dealer group stock. When I bought my Audi one dealer would only talk to me about stuff that had been sitting around for ages that he was being pressured to get rid of. Another was willing to let me look at his computer.
Surely any new Golf factory ordered now will be the facelifted car though.
Surely any new Golf factory ordered now will be the facelifted car though.
worldwidewebs said:
I'm after a new Golf and have a particular spec in mind but I don't want to wait 3-4 months so I'm limited to whatever the dealers have in stock. I've spoken with a handful and they've pretty much come back with the line that there isn't anything available to match what I want. However, I have spoken to one dealer that does have what I want, albeit he won't come up with a suitable deal at the moment.
So, is it a case that a dealer can only see what is in his group's stock or is it that most of them can't be bothered looking?
None of these any good?So, is it a case that a dealer can only see what is in his group's stock or is it that most of them can't be bothered looking?
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Blakewater said:
Usually they'll only go with what's in dealer group stock. When I bought my Audi one dealer would only talk to me about stuff that had been sitting around for ages that he was being pressured to get rid of. Another was willing to let me look at his computer.
Surely any new Golf factory ordered now will be the facelifted car though.
I'm looking for a Clubsport, so not available to order unfortunately. I think I'll just have to get a list of all the dealer groups and phone around. Off to Geneva this afternoon though so it'll have to wait a day or two Surely any new Golf factory ordered now will be the facelifted car though.
worldwidewebs said:
I'm looking for a Clubsport, so not available to order unfortunately. I think I'll just have to get a list of all the dealer groups and phone around. Off to Geneva this afternoon though so it'll have to wait a day or two
There's a few new club sports for sale on AT , have a look there.Why would the dealer cut his throat for a deal?
He knows he has the car to the spec you want. He knows you're seriously interested. He knows that there aren't any others around.
As for dealers seeing UK-wide stock - they probably can see everything but you need to take into account the car you're looking at. It's a special edition, reasonably limited in numbers. Dealer 1 is not likely to want to give away his chance of a deal on it to dealer 2. Dealer transfers within the same group tend to be ok. Outwith, well, not so much.
He knows he has the car to the spec you want. He knows you're seriously interested. He knows that there aren't any others around.
As for dealers seeing UK-wide stock - they probably can see everything but you need to take into account the car you're looking at. It's a special edition, reasonably limited in numbers. Dealer 1 is not likely to want to give away his chance of a deal on it to dealer 2. Dealer transfers within the same group tend to be ok. Outwith, well, not so much.
Dimebars said:
Why would the dealer cut his throat for a deal?
He knows he has the car to the spec you want. He knows you're seriously interested. He knows that there aren't any others around.
As for dealers seeing UK-wide stock - they probably can see everything but you need to take into account the car you're looking at. It's a special edition, reasonably limited in numbers. Dealer 1 is not likely to want to give away his chance of a deal on it to dealer 2. Dealer transfers within the same group tend to be ok. Outwith, well, not so much.
Hopefully he'll see sense but he doesn't seem to want to budge at the moment. Maybe he will nearer the month endHe knows he has the car to the spec you want. He knows you're seriously interested. He knows that there aren't any others around.
As for dealers seeing UK-wide stock - they probably can see everything but you need to take into account the car you're looking at. It's a special edition, reasonably limited in numbers. Dealer 1 is not likely to want to give away his chance of a deal on it to dealer 2. Dealer transfers within the same group tend to be ok. Outwith, well, not so much.
Dimebars said:
Why would the dealer cut his throat for a deal?
He knows he has the car to the spec you want. He knows you're seriously interested. He knows that there aren't any others around.
As for dealers seeing UK-wide stock - they probably can see everything but you need to take into account the car you're looking at. It's a special edition, reasonably limited in numbers. Dealer 1 is not likely to want to give away his chance of a deal on it to dealer 2. Dealer transfers within the same group tend to be ok. Outwith, well, not so much.
^^^He knows he has the car to the spec you want. He knows you're seriously interested. He knows that there aren't any others around.
As for dealers seeing UK-wide stock - they probably can see everything but you need to take into account the car you're looking at. It's a special edition, reasonably limited in numbers. Dealer 1 is not likely to want to give away his chance of a deal on it to dealer 2. Dealer transfers within the same group tend to be ok. Outwith, well, not so much.
This. Most franchises can "see" all stock that is unsold within the network. Franchises vary as to their approach on the release of dealer allocated stock. Some manufacturers require you to release any unsold stock upon request or, if you are unwilling to do so, register the car immediately. Others operate on it being your stock to do with as you please. Most dealers have working relationships within the network i.e. you give me what i need and vice versa.
At this point of a busy month dealers won't be gladly releasing desirable stock. Furthermore if what you want is in limited availability, and the dealer can see that, Dimebars is spot on, he's not going to release it nor offer massive discounts to shift it.
worldwidewebs said:
He also knows that if I don't get the deal I want I'll order an M140i and save nearly £4k. I know what I want, but I'm not desperate
He also knows that you can't order any more of them, that they're desirable and he can probably sell it for list price or near as damn it so why should he give it away.Fast Bug said:
worldwidewebs said:
He also knows that if I don't get the deal I want I'll order an M140i and save nearly £4k. I know what I want, but I'm not desperate
He also knows that you can't order any more of them, that they're desirable and he can probably sell it for list price or near as damn it so why should he give it away.worldwidewebs said:
Fast Bug said:
worldwidewebs said:
He also knows that if I don't get the deal I want I'll order an M140i and save nearly £4k. I know what I want, but I'm not desperate
He also knows that you can't order any more of them, that they're desirable and he can probably sell it for list price or near as damn it so why should he give it away.Its a common misconception that dealers must sell every car at any price.
worldwidewebs said:
However, I have spoken to one dealer that does have what I want, albeit he won't come up with a suitable deal at the moment.
Out of curiosity, were the other dealers offering you the discount you hoped for, but only on a factory order car or one in stock but not to your ideal spec, or did you not get that far with them as to discuss discount?daemon said:
worldwidewebs said:
However, I have spoken to one dealer that does have what I want, albeit he won't come up with a suitable deal at the moment.
Out of curiosity, were the other dealers offering you the discount you hoped for, but only on a factory order car or one in stock but not to your ideal spec, or did you not get that far with them as to discuss discount?worldwidewebs said:
daemon said:
worldwidewebs said:
However, I have spoken to one dealer that does have what I want, albeit he won't come up with a suitable deal at the moment.
Out of curiosity, were the other dealers offering you the discount you hoped for, but only on a factory order car or one in stock but not to your ideal spec, or did you not get that far with them as to discuss discount?Gassing Station | Car Buying | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff