£4k budget, diesel estate with high spec.
£4k budget, diesel estate with high spec.
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Chicken Chaser

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8,633 posts

241 months

Wednesday 16th August 2017
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I'm looking to get a cheaper motor to free up some cash for a house renovation and so I'm looking at the potential of an estate with good load space and a decent amount of extras.
Current commute is 90 miles but shift work so about 13-15k a year. If it can tow and is a good car, then it may mean I'll keep it a bit longer as planning to buy a caravan within 18 months.

Looked the obvious German stuff A4 S Line, 3 series E9x, Mondeo Titanium, Honda Accord tourers, Volvo V50 Sport and Passat R Line. Not so keen on the idea of anything French of that vintage, certainly nothing Italian.

Previously I've always bought with less than 70k on the clock, often with less than 50k but this purchase is likely going to be with over 100k on the clock. Am I overly worrying about mileage? I'll buy on condition, I like private sales as you can see where you're buying it from but that seems to be pretty rare now.

Anything I really need to consider or avoid?

Croutons

12,104 posts

183 months

Wednesday 16th August 2017
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You want high spec, low miles, and to spend £4K.

Pick any two of those three...

Chicken Chaser

Original Poster:

8,633 posts

241 months

Wednesday 16th August 2017
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Totally appreciate that, which is why I'm considering which 2 to pick. I'm just after some feedback from owners of high milers to hopefully assure me that they can be a decent buy!

vtecyo

2,122 posts

146 months

Wednesday 16th August 2017
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Croutons said:
You want high spec, low miles, and to spend £4K.

Pick any two of those three...
Or buy a Saab 9-5

PurpleTurtle

8,346 posts

161 months

Wednesday 16th August 2017
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OP - just wondering why you are going specifically diesel?

I'm in same boat as you for our second car to double as a low-miles family hack and occasional tow car for our small caravan.

Everything diesel I've looked at of a similar vintage has scared me with potentially costly DPF and/or turbo issues. I've come to the conclusion that petrol, although more expensive at the pumps, will be a lot less of a headache in terms of total running costs. Especially so when expected VED changes come in for diesels.

Only trouble is that because of the widespread popularity of diesel in this sector in the last 10 years, petrol versions are much less prevalent on the used market.

Emeye

9,780 posts

240 months

Wednesday 16th August 2017
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Volvo V70 with the 163bhp D5 engine, not the later more powerful engine.


Dan_1981

17,789 posts

216 months

Wednesday 16th August 2017
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I've got a 08 SAAB 93

heated super comfortable leather, 10 speaker extended stereo, phone etc. - granted no nav.


Chicken Chaser

Original Poster:

8,633 posts

241 months

Wednesday 16th August 2017
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Not fussed about nav, I would like cruise and a decent sound system plus full electrics. Sunroof and heated leather a bonus.

Purely looked at diesel as petrol engines generally don't have the torque for pulling caravans as well. I'm looking at around 1350kg of caravan so not overly heavy.

Dan_1981

17,789 posts

216 months

Wednesday 16th August 2017
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Chicken Chaser said:
Not fussed about nav, I would like cruise and a decent sound system plus full electrics. Sunroof and heated leather a bonus.

Purely looked at diesel as petrol engines generally don't have the torque for pulling caravans as well. I'm looking at around 1350kg of caravan so not overly heavy.
Yup my SAAB has full heated leather, cruise, and 10 speaker harman kardon.

Mammasaid

4,944 posts

114 months

Bobstar86

40 posts

97 months

Wednesday 16th August 2017
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Check out a Jag XType estate. Smart looking, lots of toys if you get Sport Premium or Soverign spec and diesels last for ages. People slate them for Mondeo chassis and engine - that means its a really good car to drive. I owned a 2.2d XType saloon for 6 years and sold it on to my mate. 130k on it and still going strong.

BugLebowski

1,035 posts

133 months

Wednesday 16th August 2017
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PurpleTurtle

8,346 posts

161 months

Wednesday 16th August 2017
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Mammasaid said:
I was looking at Volvo V50 diesels in the 60-80k miles ballpark but was very much put off by this thread

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=13...

That said, there are videos on YouTube to show how the DIY-er might do it (70 quid for an official kit from Volvo) but it looks a right ballache without access to a proper lift, probably one of those jobs best left to the indys.

Having never owned a modern diesel all of these nuances - DPF issues, some horror stories on Dual Mass Flywheels etc really put me off a diesel of this miles as a used buy. Just my fears of course - I could be looking at worst cases.

Edited by PurpleTurtle on Wednesday 16th August 17:54

ZX10R NIN

29,497 posts

142 months

Wednesday 16th August 2017
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I can recommend one of these E270/320d Avantgarde they come loaded with kit the straight 5/6 & 5 speed box are pretty much bulletproof a map will see them in the mid 40's on the motorway & will tow with ease.

E320 85k

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2017...

C220 Sport 90k

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2017...

C270 Avantgarde SE this would be my pick out of the C Classes:

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2017...

Insignia Elite 2.0d Auto 90k

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2017...

Edited by ZX10R NIN on Wednesday 16th August 20:30

Dan_1981

17,789 posts

216 months

Wednesday 16th August 2017
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I just found a great car on Auto Trader:

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2017...


I just found a great car on Auto Trader:

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2017...

kiethton

14,340 posts

197 months

Wednesday 16th August 2017
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http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2017...

Higher spec versions do come up and the old hdi is a reliable unit, hence all the minicabs back in the day


Chicken Chaser

Original Poster:

8,633 posts

241 months

Wednesday 16th August 2017
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Saab love is strong in this thread!

Had a look at Petrols, its amazing how few are available and just highlights the concentrated efforts of manufacturers and govts to take up Diesel instead of Petrol.

ZX10R NIN

29,497 posts

142 months

Wednesday 16th August 2017
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The Saab diesels are the same engine as in the Vectra which weren't the best reliability wise.

Dan_1981

17,789 posts

216 months

Wednesday 16th August 2017
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ZX10R NIN said:
The Saab diesels are the same engine as in the Vectra which weren't the best reliability wise.
Mines just ticked over 245k

But agree there are good n bad out there

briang9

3,737 posts

177 months

Wednesday 16th August 2017
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http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2017...

even has the towbar pre-fitted for you...