How to buy a new car, sell old one privately/insurance/sorn
How to buy a new car, sell old one privately/insurance/sorn
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Wulliewallace

Original Poster:

6 posts

98 months

Monday 28th August 2017
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My wife and I have just bought a new car, which we pick up on Wednesday/Thursday, and we then intend to sell the old car privately. We can easily switch her current insurance policy over to the new car, but how do we keep the old car legal, and able to be test-driven by any potential buyers? Would we have to take out a new insurance policy for the old car? Apparently if it wasn't insured we'd have to SORN it, which ain't an ideal selling platform. Help!

ZX10R NIN

29,503 posts

143 months

Monday 28th August 2017
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The people test driving the vehicle would have to have their own insurance in order to drive the vehicle anyway, so it's just you who needs cover, speak to your insurance company & they should be able to provide cover until the car is sold.

Wulliewallace

Original Poster:

6 posts

98 months

Monday 28th August 2017
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My wife spoke to her insurance company. £25 per day to insure it! I'm thinking taking out a new policy, and cancelling it when the car sells is the only real option now.

Tony427

2,873 posts

251 months

Monday 28th August 2017
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Wulliewallace said:
My wife spoke to her insurance company. £25 per day to insure it! I'm thinking taking out a new policy, and cancelling it when the car sells is the only real option now.
Get her to take out a new policy on the old car mirroring the no claims bonus she has already earned. Most insurance companies do this. She will then have two insured cars both on the same no claims bonus discount. One will be sat on the drive or street whilst she drives the other.

When you sell the old car,(btw never ever get out of the car on the test drive unless you have the keys in your hand), just cancel that insurance policy and you will be charged a pro rate insurance fee based on the annual cost.

It will not be £25 per day.

Cheers,

Tony




cuprabob

17,124 posts

232 months

Monday 28th August 2017
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Wulliewallace said:
My wife spoke to her insurance company. £25 per day to insure it! I'm thinking taking out a new policy, and cancelling it when the car sells is the only real option now.
If you intend to cancel after the 14 days cooling off period, make sure you are aware of the cancellation fee as it can be significant.

Wulliewallace

Original Poster:

6 posts

98 months

Monday 28th August 2017
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Tony427 said:
Get her to take out a new policy on the old car mirroring the no claims bonus she has already earned. Most insurance companies do this. She will then have two insured cars both on the same no claims bonus discount. One will be sat on the drive or street whilst she drives the other.

When you sell the old car,(btw never ever get out of the car on the test drive unless you have the keys in your hand), just cancel that insurance policy and you will be charged a pro rate insurance fee based on the annual cost.

It will not be £25 per day.

Cheers,

Tony


Basically what I just tried to do online, but I read on the comparison site that u cannot use ur no claims on 2 cars, and the quote for 3Rd party f&t, driving for pleasure only at 1k miles per year was extortionate with no no claims.

anonymous-user

72 months

Monday 28th August 2017
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Talk to them, don’t try and do it online. Explain it’s a short term crossover while you are selling the older car, most insurers will cover both for a month or two.

saaby93

32,038 posts

196 months

Monday 28th August 2017
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Dont most insurers if you ask, allow you a month cover of the old car to give you time to sell it?

The Mad Monk

10,755 posts

135 months

Monday 28th August 2017
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Why not pick it up on Friday, then it will have the new '67' plate?

Wulliewallace

Original Poster:

6 posts

98 months

Monday 28th August 2017
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When I said new, I meant new used.

The Mad Monk

10,755 posts

135 months

Tuesday 29th August 2017
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Wulliewallace said:
When I said new, I meant new used.
Ah!

SCEtoAUX

4,119 posts

99 months

Tuesday 29th August 2017
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Aviva happily mirrored my insurance/no claims. Three cars in the family, two drivers. Extra cost for an MR2 Roadster for four months was minimal.

The above isn't that relevant but as stated by others, I couldn't do it online. By phone it took about a three minutes as my attempt to try it online meant they had all of the car details to hand.

Wulliewallace

Original Poster:

6 posts

98 months

Tuesday 29th August 2017
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So here's the latest state of affairs..
The wife contacted her insurance company, who said they don't mirror no claims, but she could get insured on the new car with 0 years no claims, then they'd swap the cars over once we've sold the old one, with a cancellation fee of £55 on top of the £85 initial payment. I'm not sure if the cover pro rata would also be charged.

She has also got quotes for temporary insurance - the best being £97 for 2 weeks cover.

I have since got a separate quote for 3rd party fire and theft (surely I don't need fully comp when the car will only leave the driveway for a test drive) driving 1000 miles per year, social only, with 0 years no claims. The installments are 1 * £28.14, 11*£31.16. The cancellation fees are £20 in the 1St 2 weeks plus a proportion of the cover to date. So for 2 weeks cover we'll pay £20(fee)+£14.07(2 weeks cover)=£34.07. 1 month cover would be £55(fee)+£28.14(one months cover)=£78.14. Am I missing something or is taking out this new policy and cancelling once the car sells the only real way to go? We're planning to price the car to sell quickly.

TJC46

2,186 posts

224 months

Tuesday 29th August 2017
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Have you bought the car from a dealer or private.

Some dealers offer drive away insurance usually valid for 7 days.

Not fantastic i know but if you could manage to sell your old car in a week.......job done.

Alternatively if again from a dealer hold off collecting the new car until the old one is sold then swap insurance details for the new car.....again job done

cuprabob

17,124 posts

232 months

Tuesday 29th August 2017
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Remember if you take out a new policy, you have a 14 days cooling off period
So if you sell within 14 days you won't have to.pay a cancellation fee, just the pro-rata insurance fee.

Wulliewallace

Original Poster:

6 posts

98 months

Tuesday 29th August 2017
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TJC46 said:
Have you bought the car from a dealer or private.

Some dealers offer drive away insurance usually valid for 7 days.

Not fantastic i know but if you could manage to sell your old car in a week.......job done.

Alternatively if again from a dealer hold off collecting the new car until the old one is sold then swap insurance details for the new car.....again job done
Holding off would be ideal, but expensive. We got a decent discount as it's the end of the month, on the premise that we bought it by Thursday.

P700DEE

1,169 posts

248 months

Wednesday 30th August 2017
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Sad, your insurance company is not being helpful. I have always taken out a new policy on buying an additional, replacement car no problem getting matched no claims. I did find insurers wanted stupid money to cover old car for a month
Get a new policy for the new car with matched no claims. Cancel the old policy when you sell the old car and use the letter showing no claims for the new policy.

gmaz

4,949 posts

228 months

Wednesday 30th August 2017
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I've done this a few times and always found it cheaper to take out a new policy, finding the best deal on a comparison website, while keeping the previous policy going until I sell the car.

TJC46

2,186 posts

224 months

Wednesday 30th August 2017
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Wulliewallace said:
Holding off would be ideal, but expensive. We got a decent discount as it's the end of the month, on the premise that we bought it by Thursday.
You can, or should I say have already bought it before Thursday.........just do not collect it till later, ideally after you have sold your old car ! yes