Which hot hatch under 5k?!!!
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Hello,
I'm currently looking to upgrade my car, I have a mk6 fiesta st at the minute. I do like the car but I'm starting to fall out of love with it now as it's bit small and uncomfortable and Im wanting something bigger with more power, I have 2 dogs aswell so I need something with a bigger boot as I can't put them in my car at the minute for more than 5 mins.
I'm looking for something reasonably comfortable aswell but still sporty and tunable, at the minute I have come up with a focus St 225 (bit too bad on fuel), Megane 225 (don't love the styling), and a Astra H VXR (probably one Im considering the most), my budget is a maximum of 5k.
Just wondering if anyone can think of any other cars that would suit what I have meantioned above?
Thanks
Liam
I'm currently looking to upgrade my car, I have a mk6 fiesta st at the minute. I do like the car but I'm starting to fall out of love with it now as it's bit small and uncomfortable and Im wanting something bigger with more power, I have 2 dogs aswell so I need something with a bigger boot as I can't put them in my car at the minute for more than 5 mins.
I'm looking for something reasonably comfortable aswell but still sporty and tunable, at the minute I have come up with a focus St 225 (bit too bad on fuel), Megane 225 (don't love the styling), and a Astra H VXR (probably one Im considering the most), my budget is a maximum of 5k.
Just wondering if anyone can think of any other cars that would suit what I have meantioned above?
Thanks
Liam
Ved said:
Yep this is perfect or how about a Impreza WRX estate? Perfect for the dogs and will give you MPG like a GTI when you want it to. I wouldn't get hung up on fuel though unless it's critical for you.
thanks for ideas but I don't really want an estate as I'm only 24 and feel like they too grown up hahaBatson7 said:
Ved said:
Yep this is perfect or how about a Impreza WRX estate? Perfect for the dogs and will give you MPG like a GTI when you want it to. I wouldn't get hung up on fuel though unless it's critical for you.
thanks for ideas but I don't really want an estate as I'm only 24 and feel like they too grown up hahaWell if you realise the ultimate cool of a wagon this is ideal and the dealer is a great specialist in Subarus https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
Focus ST225 Op for your budget. 5k will get you a reasonable mileage 2006. I looked at all the hot hatches before i got my ST225 and I think it's the best all round choice. Not to mention a £300 re map will see just shy of 270bhp with a load of Torque.
Imo the the Golf of that generation is slower and boring to look at, the VXR and Megane are not as reliable either both having many common issues compared to the Focus. The Mazda 3 MPS is a good car also but looks more dated now than its rivals
Imo the the Golf of that generation is slower and boring to look at, the VXR and Megane are not as reliable either both having many common issues compared to the Focus. The Mazda 3 MPS is a good car also but looks more dated now than its rivals
Would have sold you my Mk5 GtI for 3k but it sold earlier. Personally that's what i would go for if i had that budget. They are pretty well screwed together and handle high miles (mine was 118k and still tight and drove as well as my 8j TT with 20k on the clock).
The Type R is a good shout but the GTI does all of the Type R speed without looking like a bit of a twunt revving it to death to get the power. Leon Cupra R was decent enough from what i remember years back owning one. i suppose it all comes down to what type of power delivery you want. Revvy and thrashy like a 182/Type R or torque and turbo power with GTI/Cupra/VXR.
ETA MPS is a good call but needs Aero pack with lowered ride height and skirts/spoiler/wingmirrors to make it look less bland.
The Type R is a good shout but the GTI does all of the Type R speed without looking like a bit of a twunt revving it to death to get the power. Leon Cupra R was decent enough from what i remember years back owning one. i suppose it all comes down to what type of power delivery you want. Revvy and thrashy like a 182/Type R or torque and turbo power with GTI/Cupra/VXR.
ETA MPS is a good call but needs Aero pack with lowered ride height and skirts/spoiler/wingmirrors to make it look less bland.
Edited by Section 8 on Sunday 3rd September 18:21
ST Ford said:
Focus ST225 Op for your budget. 5k will get you a reasonable mileage 2006. I looked at all the hot hatches before i got my ST225 and I think it's the best all round choice. Not to mention a £300 re map will see just shy of 270bhp with a load of Torque.
Imo the the Golf of that generation is slower and boring to look at, the VXR and Megane are not as reliable either both having many common issues compared to the Focus. The Mazda 3 MPS is a good car also but looks more dated now than its rivals
Apart from the engine block liners cracking and ruining the engine.Imo the the Golf of that generation is slower and boring to look at, the VXR and Megane are not as reliable either both having many common issues compared to the Focus. The Mazda 3 MPS is a good car also but looks more dated now than its rivals
Nothing wrong with the golf of That era, a remap could push you too 300bhp if you choose the right golf with the right engine.
MPS suffers with chocolate piston syndrome.
Mk5 golf gti or astra vxr for me OP.
I'm looking more at the turbo cars to be honest, something with a lot of torque and the turbo noise as I'm a big kid! Haha
Always had fords and always looked up to the st225 but I don't no if I can afford to run it with the insurance being more than a vxr and Megane and also the mpg figures people get seem really bad
Always had fords and always looked up to the st225 but I don't no if I can afford to run it with the insurance being more than a vxr and Megane and also the mpg figures people get seem really bad
The Focus does have an advantage over the others with it's engine note. i don't think anyone posting would deny the ST 5 cylinder makes the others sound a bit pants. The VXR does sound better with an exhaust but the MPS and GTI are not going to win any awards for sounding that good.
Sadly the Focus has one hell of a drinking problem and the VXR gearboxes are comically prone to bearings failing..
Sadly the Focus has one hell of a drinking problem and the VXR gearboxes are comically prone to bearings failing..
DSGbangs said:
Nothing wrong with the golf of That era, a remap could push you too 300bhp if you choose the right golf with the right engine.
You would need an ED30 with the KO4 to achieve that kind of power with a remap. I doubt you can pick one of those up for 5k and if you did it would be very leggy.Batson7 said:
I'm looking more at the turbo cars to be honest, something with a lot of torque and the turbo noise as I'm a big kid! Haha
A half decent mk5 gti with a remap and a catback/turbo back exhaust would yield excellent torque and performance.Turbo noise would come from the exhaust also.
Easily within 5K.
Gareth79 said:
Check the tax bands for the MPS - I was looking at the 3 recently and some are on the £520 rate.
Cheers for the heads up on that, can take that off the list I'm paying that much I tax a year! Haha
The st225 does sound amazing an fits in with all the Ford shows I go too and has the boot space might end up biting the bullet on the running costs I'm not sure, but I do like the vxr aswell.
Just really want to get the right car this time as I've never owned a car for even a year yet!
Thanks for all the replies everyone has been really helpful!
You mentioned tuneable but also mentioned fuel economy and a 5k price limit. I've spent years tuning cars and if you go down that route, you should expect fuel economy to be poor and to put wear on various components at a much faster rate (clutch, brakes, drive train etc and there's also a chance of an engine rebuild at some point).
I too love the sound of a car running high boost particularly with an induction kit but you'll need to expect significant cost increases if you go further than a remap.
I too love the sound of a car running high boost particularly with an induction kit but you'll need to expect significant cost increases if you go further than a remap.
I know you wanted turbo power, but how about something a bit different?
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2017...
A 130i is pretty quick and the power delivery is very smooth from what I hear. Prices seem to be somewhat stagnant for now so depreciation shouldn't be much of an issue if you were worrying, especially seeing as though numbers are pretty limited.
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2017...
A 130i is pretty quick and the power delivery is very smooth from what I hear. Prices seem to be somewhat stagnant for now so depreciation shouldn't be much of an issue if you were worrying, especially seeing as though numbers are pretty limited.
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