Strange MOT History
Strange MOT History
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8Ace

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2,835 posts

220 months

Monday 16th October 2017
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Looking for a Mk 4.5 Mondeo to replace my ancient Jag. Came across the following:

Mondeo

Seems rather cheap - about £1000 less than others of equivalent age / mileage / spec.. But it's the MOT history that looks weird: The was registered in Nov 2012, but had it's first MOT test just over 1 year later (but at only 20 miles). It then had them annually.

Is it the case that it lay in a field for 2 years before being registered, so while being registered in 2012, it's actually a 2010 car, hence the low price? Is this a common thing?

SantaBarbara

3,244 posts

130 months

Monday 16th October 2017
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Was it owned by Ford motor company themselves? One of their loan or demonstration fleet?

yellowjack

18,015 posts

188 months

Monday 16th October 2017
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DVLA say it was both manufactured and first registered in 2012. Just type the number plate in here... https://vehicleenquiry.service.gov.uk/ViewVehicle

The ad says "demo plus 1 owner" so quite possible that the selling dealer just put the MOT on it after it had stood around for most of it's early life. 20 miles certainly seems low for a demo car.

Alternative theory? It was MOT'd after some repairs following a crash?

Who knows?

If it's any help to you, I have the standard manual gearbox version of that car, the 2.0 TDCi Titanium X (163 engine/power output). It's on about 58,000 miles now, one advisory for suspension bushes after the last MOT, and owes me nothing but regular servicing and tyres/brake pads. Great car, happy all day long on the motorway and A roads, pretty comfortable, and handles well, especially given it's a larger car. Can be a bh in car parks with narrow spaces, but no more so than similar sized cars. My real world fuel consumption figure is sat around 46 mpg, although it does a lot better on long trips. On holiday journeys where I'm not in a hurry and can avoid queues I get upwards of 800 miles from a tank. Probably the wrong car for the way I live my life now - too many short trips during the week, dropping the wife at work, etc. I bought it in a "commuting 100 mile journeys" mindset, even though I wasn't going to be doing that any more. I've had mine nearly 5 years now, and I don't think I'll be changing it any time soon.

Edited by yellowjack on Monday 16th October 11:12

8Ace

Original Poster:

2,835 posts

220 months

Monday 16th October 2017
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SantaBarbara said:
Was it owned by Ford motor company themselves? One of their loan or demonstration fleet?
Looks like it:
advert said:
DEMO PLUS I OWNER
Still don't get why it's MOT tested 1 year after registration thouigh..

Gav147

983 posts

183 months

Monday 16th October 2017
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Could it have been a taxi or something? Do they not have to be mot'd from 1 year old?

kambites

70,477 posts

243 months

Monday 16th October 2017
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Gav147 said:
Could it have been a taxi or something? Do they not have to be mot'd from 1 year old?
With only 20 miles on the clock?

Sounds like it was sitting in a showroom for that year. No idea why it would have been MoT'd. Maybe the dealer felt it would increase its value when they sold it to the first private owner?

ETA: Ah I see what you mean now. Yes the buyer might have been a taxi driver/company.

Edited by kambites on Monday 16th October 11:17

alangla

6,199 posts

203 months

Monday 16th October 2017
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Check it's not been written off - some insurance companies ask for a fresh MoT before re-insuring a repaired Cat C, not sure about other categories.

Possibly in use as a taxi is another good shout.

oakdale

1,977 posts

224 months

Monday 16th October 2017
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Taxi or private hire are the only five seat vehicles that need an MOT at 1 year.

Richard-390a0

3,206 posts

113 months

Monday 16th October 2017
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IIRC taxi's have an MOT every 6 months rather than annually. Anyone know what the rules would be for emergency / military vehicles e.g undercover police / mi5 etc?.

oakdale

1,977 posts

224 months

Monday 16th October 2017
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Richard-390a0 said:
IIRC taxi's have an MOT every 6 months rather than annually. Anyone know what the rules would be for emergency / military vehicles e.g undercover police / mi5 etc?.
Some local authorities require them to have an MOT every six months after a certain age, but the gov regs require the MOT at one year.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

148 months

Monday 16th October 2017
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The first MOT wasn't even at 1yr - it was at 3mo... then at 13mo

First reg Nov 12
MOT Feb 13, 20 miles
MOT Dec 13, 16k
MOT Dec 14, 36k
MOT Nov 15, 54k - first one actually required legally.

It wore A2EEC between Aug 15 and Jul 17, still with the first non-dealer keeper - that plate's now on a silver 2015 Merc S350 diesel... which is on its third plate in the current ownership (the other one is now on a silver 2016 730d), and had its first MOT at two years old, six months after they bought it.

My money's definitely on it having been private hire of some flavour.

SS2.

14,676 posts

260 months

Monday 16th October 2017
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A2 EEC is on this register of hackney carriage & private hire vehicles - Link to Runnymede.

HC075.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

148 months

Monday 16th October 2017
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SS2. said:
A2 EEC is on this register of hackney carriage & private hire vehicles - Link to Runnymede.
"Red Ford Mondeo"...

MOTs in Staines and Addlestone - which is Runnymede.

Bingo.

The S-class is on there under its original plate, EY15 CUW, too.

SantaBarbara

3,244 posts

130 months

Monday 16th October 2017
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oakdale said:
Richard-390a0 said:
IIRC taxi's have an MOT every 6 months rather than annually. Anyone know what the rules would be for emergency / military vehicles e.g undercover police / mi5 etc?.
Some local authorities require them to have an MOT every six months after a certain age, but the gov regs require the MOT at one year.
Are you sure about that?
It depends which branch of the government you are talking about.

Peanut Gallery

2,647 posts

132 months

Monday 16th October 2017
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I assume you have read Glasgowrobs tales of woe?

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

8Ace

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Monday 16th October 2017
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Spendid detective-ing everyone, thanks smile

8Ace

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220 months

Monday 16th October 2017
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Peanut Gallery said:
I assume you have read Glasgowrobs tales of woe?

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Actually, AIUI, the tale of woe related to its replacement, the mk5. His view on the 4.5 is very favourable (and has in no small part influenced me to look for one).

If I've misunderstood this, then thanks for letting me know.

Peanut Gallery

2,647 posts

132 months

Monday 16th October 2017
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(more along the lines of me not knowing which Mk you are getting, yes, you have said the reg, I was not sure which Mk relates to which reg)

If this is the Mk4,5 that Glasgowrob talks about then go for it!

SantaBarbara

3,244 posts

130 months

Monday 16th October 2017
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8Ace said:
Looking for a Mk 4.5 Mondeo to replace my ancient Jag. Came across the following:

Mondeo

Seems rather cheap - about £1000 less than others of equivalent age / mileage / spec.. But it's the MOT history that looks weird: The was registered in Nov 2012, but had it's first MOT test just over 1 year later (but at only 20 miles). It then had them annually.

Is it the case that it lay in a field for 2 years before being registered, so while being registered in 2012, it's actually a 2010 car, hence the low price? Is this a common thing?
On your last point was it unregistered for two years, find out the VIN number, that may contain the date of manufacture.

Glasgowrob

3,314 posts

143 months

Monday 16th October 2017
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mk4.5 is a great choice OP

solid workhorse that will go on and on and on.

did i read your getting a Tit X? cracking car and the TitX interior is super comfy(retro fitted that into mine


the mk5 is a pig of a car in comparison which is where all my problems started (when mk4 ownership ended)