Ideas needed: Fun shells for an RWD toy
Ideas needed: Fun shells for an RWD toy
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Flat-6

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192 months

Sunday 17th December 2017
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Evening all!
I'm a bit torn at the moment, I have the possibility of getting an MG Midget for a vert low sum.

I have a Ford ST170 engine (Zetec 2.0l) mated to an RX8 gearbox, running on throttle bodies and Microsquirt sat waiting to slot into something.

However, I think a midget would either twist in half or be basically disastrous handling-wise.

what else is out there as something (classic preferably) that's already set up as RWD (doesn't need to be convertible) that would make an interesting road/track toy car?

I'd absolutely LOVE a MK1 Escort, but that's WAY out of my budget (which is £1-2k for a rolling shell)

GO!



(ETA: first person to say MX5 gets the disapproving mother look)

kambites

70,441 posts

243 months

Sunday 17th December 2017
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You could fit a cage to the Midget? A friend of mine used to race one and it was pretty rigid fully seam welded with a cage.

Flat-6

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192 months

Sunday 17th December 2017
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kambites said:
You could fit a cage to the Midget? A friend of mine used to race one and it was pretty rigid fully seam welded with a cage.
I could, but to be fully honest, i just dont really like them - its still a possibility though.

Krikkit

27,791 posts

203 months

Sunday 17th December 2017
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Off topic, but did the RX8 box need an adapter to fit the Zetec?

Flat-6

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Sunday 17th December 2017
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Krikkit said:
Off topic, but did the RX8 box need an adapter to fit the Zetec?
Yes it does.

brrapp

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184 months

Sunday 17th December 2017
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How about a mk1 escort van ? I remember a rally prepared one on Mull back in the early eighties, could do everything a normal escort could but had the shock value too as nobody expected an old van to go so quick.
You should be able to pick up a rolling shell for a lot less than a saloon.

kambites

70,441 posts

243 months

Sunday 17th December 2017
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anonymous said:
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I assume you mean the mk4? As far as I know the mk1-3 all had the same suspension setup which was prone to the rear wheel "tucking under" the car.

The Midget is still a better handling car, though. IMO.


Unfortunately with the way prices have gone, £1-2k buys you very little in the world of RWD classics. To get the most out of that engine and gearbox you probably want no more than about a tonne all in.

Edited by kambites on Sunday 17th December 19:04

Flat-6

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Sunday 17th December 2017
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anonymous said:
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Actually I sold a spitfire 2 weeks ago!!!
The rear suspension on them is awful.

MorganP104

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152 months

Sunday 17th December 2017
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Could you base it on a Cortina or Capri platform?

Both are RWD, and I would imagine are cheaper to get hold of than MkI/MkII Escorts.

Flat-6

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192 months

Sunday 17th December 2017
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^^^^^ TVR Moneypit

THAT's what i was after, Thanks!!

I'm going to crack open a bottle of wine and see where the rabbit tunnel leads (on ebay)

The last thing I bought on a bottle of wine about this time last year was a g-wiz...

Flat-6

Original Poster:

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192 months

Sunday 17th December 2017
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MorganP104 said:
Could you base it on a Cortina or Capri platform?

Both are RWD, and I would imagine are cheaper to get hold of than MkI/MkII Escorts.
Still not cheap, certainly anything that doesnt need 6 months of welding.

akirk

5,775 posts

136 months

Sunday 17th December 2017
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Flat-6 said:
Evening all!
I'm a bit torn at the moment, I have the possibility of getting an MG Midget for a vert low sum.

I have a Ford ST170 engine (Zetec 2.0l) mated to an RX8 gearbox, running on throttle bodies and Microsquirt sat waiting to slot into something.

However, I think a midget would either twist in half or be basically disastrous handling-wise.

what else is out there as something (classic preferably) that's already set up as RWD (doesn't need to be convertible) that would make an interesting road/track toy car?

I'd absolutely LOVE a MK1 Escort, but that's WAY out of my budget (which is £1-2k for a rolling shell)

GO!



(ETA: first person to say MX5 gets the disapproving mother look)
A few years ago I drove the k-series based midget conversion by Frontline of Abingdon, nt sure what power it had but it left an M3 for dust on wet country roads smile

defblade

7,947 posts

235 months

Sunday 17th December 2017
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Opel GT
Manta
Chevette

kambites

70,441 posts

243 months

Sunday 17th December 2017
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akirk said:
A few years ago I drove the k-series based midget conversion by Frontline of Abingdon, nt sure what power it had but it left an M3 for dust on wet country roads smile
They're pretty light. We fairly easily got ours to the point where even with a full cage, plumbed in fire extinguisher, hardtop, etc. we still had to add balast to get it up tot he 600kg minimum weight limit of the series.

ging84

9,548 posts

168 months

Sunday 17th December 2017
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If i was going to self build an old fashioned death trap I'd want a cobra style body
but a cobra with a 4 cylinder engine seems pretty awful, maybe you could get a v8 instead


kambites

70,441 posts

243 months

Sunday 17th December 2017
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ging84 said:
If i was going to self build an old fashioned death trap I'd want a cobra style body
For £2k? Good luck with that!

Flat-6

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Sunday 17th December 2017
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ging84 said:
If i was going to self build an old fashioned death trap I'd want a cobra style body
but a cobra with a 4 cylinder engine seems pretty awful, maybe you could get a v8 instead
If I wanted a kit car yes - but this is more of a classic sleeper type project.

I would also like to think that I could engineer something not completely deathy.

J4CKO

45,584 posts

222 months

Sunday 17th December 2017
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Porsche 924



hughgeorghan

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140 months

Sunday 17th December 2017
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Triumph Dolomite

Flat-6

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Sunday 17th December 2017
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Just found a rather awful beige 4-door 1978 Cortina, yes in Beige.

THATs tempting.