Golf R Buying Advise
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Hi all,
I'm looking to purchase a low mileage facelift Golf R. I have found a 2017 car with 5,000 miles for sale at a VW dealer that is almost the perfect spec and I'm toying with the idea of viewing it. Is it likely that this car and other 17/67 plate cars get reduced in March due to the new reg being released?
Thanks
I'm looking to purchase a low mileage facelift Golf R. I have found a 2017 car with 5,000 miles for sale at a VW dealer that is almost the perfect spec and I'm toying with the idea of viewing it. Is it likely that this car and other 17/67 plate cars get reduced in March due to the new reg being released?
Thanks
I would have thought the price will drop a bit with the new plate, although I can't say for certain.
I'd be looking carefully at deals on brand new cars, use DTD, broadspeed, carwow etc too see how they stack up Vs the one you've seen.
Usually new cars can be had very close/cheaper than used prices especially in the vag group.
If it's a good deal and in your desired spec then I wouldn't hang about waiting for a few quid to be knocked off.
I'd be looking carefully at deals on brand new cars, use DTD, broadspeed, carwow etc too see how they stack up Vs the one you've seen.
Usually new cars can be had very close/cheaper than used prices especially in the vag group.
If it's a good deal and in your desired spec then I wouldn't hang about waiting for a few quid to be knocked off.
Thanks for the advice, the car is the perfect spec apart from missing the 19" pretoria wheel option which would cost me around £1500 to retrofit. The car is currently up for £27k so this puts me at £28,500.
There is another for sale second hand at £29,000 which has the wheels and the dynamic chassis control (£850 option).
The car is going to be a second car and garaged during the week, I'm really trying to keep as far away from £30k as possible as I just can't stomach the depreciation, I also don't want to lease as I plan to mildly tune the car.
Maybe I need to just wait for some older cars to come available
There is another for sale second hand at £29,000 which has the wheels and the dynamic chassis control (£850 option).
The car is going to be a second car and garaged during the week, I'm really trying to keep as far away from £30k as possible as I just can't stomach the depreciation, I also don't want to lease as I plan to mildly tune the car.
Maybe I need to just wait for some older cars to come available
OP, you need to ask a lot of questions about the history of an almost new car, particularly those with minimal mileage. Why did the first user flog it? If it's an ex-demo, then fine. If you don't get a good explanation, then be suspicious.
There are a surprising number of almost new, damaged cars that have had gap-insurance claims that are sold through the motor salvage network. Most of these cars have relatively minor damage, but not all. Most of them do not have a history on the Vcar register. Many of them, once repaired, may be as good as cars that have never been damaged.
An example: a local bodyshop owner recently bought a 2 month old Golf with front end damage. It had 340 miles on the clock and is HPI clear. He paid just about £9000 with commissions and delivery. When Golfs get crunched at the front, pretty much everything can be unbolted because the complete front panel that supports the lights and radiators is plastic. It needed: a front panel, a bonnet, one wing, grill, bumper & trims, all lights, radiators and paint. He bought most of the parts used from the salvage breaker network for about £1500 (this way all of the parts were genuine VAG and fitted properly) and then he painted the front.
He sold it to a local with a photographic record of what had been done and cleared a £6000 profit in 10 days. Most would not have admitted to what had been done and could have cleared over £10,000. I guarantee that more than 99% of people would never know that it had been damaged and repaired because the standard of work was exemplary.
There are a surprising number of almost new, damaged cars that have had gap-insurance claims that are sold through the motor salvage network. Most of these cars have relatively minor damage, but not all. Most of them do not have a history on the Vcar register. Many of them, once repaired, may be as good as cars that have never been damaged.
An example: a local bodyshop owner recently bought a 2 month old Golf with front end damage. It had 340 miles on the clock and is HPI clear. He paid just about £9000 with commissions and delivery. When Golfs get crunched at the front, pretty much everything can be unbolted because the complete front panel that supports the lights and radiators is plastic. It needed: a front panel, a bonnet, one wing, grill, bumper & trims, all lights, radiators and paint. He bought most of the parts used from the salvage breaker network for about £1500 (this way all of the parts were genuine VAG and fitted properly) and then he painted the front.
He sold it to a local with a photographic record of what had been done and cleared a £6000 profit in 10 days. Most would not have admitted to what had been done and could have cleared over £10,000. I guarantee that more than 99% of people would never know that it had been damaged and repaired because the standard of work was exemplary.
steve-5snwi said:
If it's just a weekend car and you don't want depreciation then why not buy something like a Boxster ?
Not for me sorryToed64 said:
OP, you need to ask a lot of questions about the history of an almost new car, particularly those with minimal mileage. Why did the first user flog it? If it's an ex-demo, then fine. If you don't get a good explanation, then be suspicious.
There are a surprising number of almost new, damaged cars that have had gap-insurance claims that are sold through the motor salvage network. Most of these cars have relatively minor damage, but not all. Most of them do not have a history on the Vcar register. Many of them, once repaired, may be as good as cars that have never been damaged.
An example: a local bodyshop owner recently bought a 2 month old Golf with front end damage. It had 340 miles on the clock and is HPI clear. He paid just about £9000 with commissions and delivery. When Golfs get crunched at the front, pretty much everything can be unbolted because the complete front panel that supports the lights and radiators is plastic. It needed: a front panel, a bonnet, one wing, grill, bumper & trims, all lights, radiators and paint. He bought most of the parts used from the salvage breaker network for about £1500 (this way all of the parts were genuine VAG and fitted properly) and then he painted the front.
He sold it to a local with a photographic record of what had been done and cleared a £6000 profit in 10 days. Most would not have admitted to what had been done and could have cleared over £10,000. I guarantee that more than 99% of people would never know that it had been damaged and repaired because the standard of work was exemplary.
Thanks for the informative post, I want to stay clear of ex demo cars and I don't want to buy something that's been abused by every man and his dog. The car I mentioned above is a "VW Benefit car" and was owned by the master tech at the dealership, apparently they get new cars every six months through one of the VW schemes.There are a surprising number of almost new, damaged cars that have had gap-insurance claims that are sold through the motor salvage network. Most of these cars have relatively minor damage, but not all. Most of them do not have a history on the Vcar register. Many of them, once repaired, may be as good as cars that have never been damaged.
An example: a local bodyshop owner recently bought a 2 month old Golf with front end damage. It had 340 miles on the clock and is HPI clear. He paid just about £9000 with commissions and delivery. When Golfs get crunched at the front, pretty much everything can be unbolted because the complete front panel that supports the lights and radiators is plastic. It needed: a front panel, a bonnet, one wing, grill, bumper & trims, all lights, radiators and paint. He bought most of the parts used from the salvage breaker network for about £1500 (this way all of the parts were genuine VAG and fitted properly) and then he painted the front.
He sold it to a local with a photographic record of what had been done and cleared a £6000 profit in 10 days. Most would not have admitted to what had been done and could have cleared over £10,000. I guarantee that more than 99% of people would never know that it had been damaged and repaired because the standard of work was exemplary.
George3g said:
Thanks for the informative post, I want to stay clear of ex demo cars and I don't want to buy something that's been abused by every man and his dog. The car I mentioned above is a "VW Benefit car" and was owned by the master tech at the dealership, apparently they get new cars every six months through one of the VW schemes.
Because he is a master tech at the dealership does not mean he has not ragged the a
se of the car.Maybe more so, as he knows he only has it for 6 months, its under warranty anyway, and he just gives it back.
I would certainly be having my fair share of spirited driving in a car i can hand back after 6 months.
TJC46 said:
George3g said:
Thanks for the informative post, I want to stay clear of ex demo cars and I don't want to buy something that's been abused by every man and his dog. The car I mentioned above is a "VW Benefit car" and was owned by the master tech at the dealership, apparently they get new cars every six months through one of the VW schemes.
Because he is a master tech at the dealership does not mean he has not ragged the ase of the car.Maybe more so, as he knows he only has it for 6 months, its under warranty anyway, and he just gives it back.
I would certainly be having my fair share of spirited driving in a car i can hand back after 6 months.
Mind you, these Golfs are built for drivingTJC46 said:
Because he is a master tech at the dealership does not mean he has not ragged the ase of the car.
Maybe more so, as he knows he only has it for 6 months, its under warranty anyway, and he just gives it back.
I would certainly be having my fair share of spirited driving in a car i can hand back after 6 months.
Very good point! Thanks!se of the car.Maybe more so, as he knows he only has it for 6 months, its under warranty anyway, and he just gives it back.
I would certainly be having my fair share of spirited driving in a car i can hand back after 6 months.
2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
That's a risk with any second hand car though? You pays your money & takes your chance. Mind, if it's DSG they can presumably tell you how many times launch control has been used.
Mind you, these Golfs are built for driving
My commute to work is only five miles and I will get more enjoyment from the car when I can pick and choose to use it. Plus I prefer to have a run around for trips to the tip ect Mind you, these Golfs are built for drivingMo28 said:
OP do you have your heart set on the Golf R?
For your budget and mileage I personally would be going for a something with a V8/V10/V12
Yup. I'm a bit of a VAG fanboy and I love punchy, torquey turbo engines.For your budget and mileage I personally would be going for a something with a V8/V10/V12
Yipper said:
You can get a brandnew, unmolested R (with heavy discounting) for about the same price. No need to go second-hand.
I've had a few quotes on Carwow for around the 30k mark, I haven't tried drive the deal or broadspeed though. Ideally I would be spending around £25k max but I think it'll be a while before I find a facelift car that meets my spec in that price range.2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
TJC46 said:
George3g said:
Thanks for the informative post, I want to stay clear of ex demo cars and I don't want to buy something that's been abused by every man and his dog. The car I mentioned above is a "VW Benefit car" and was owned by the master tech at the dealership, apparently they get new cars every six months through one of the VW schemes.
Because he is a master tech at the dealership does not mean he has not ragged the ase of the car.Maybe more so, as he knows he only has it for 6 months, its under warranty anyway, and he just gives it back.
I would certainly be having my fair share of spirited driving in a car i can hand back after 6 months.
Mind you, these Golfs are built for driving
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