BMW 1M or 996 Turbo??
Discussion
Hi,
I am looking to buy a weekend toy with future investment potential. Due to needing rear seats I have narrowed down to either a BMW 1M Coupe, or a 996 Turbo. These cars are obviously very different and each have their own pro’s and cons, but from a residuals perspective which would be the smartest buy?
The Porsche is less limited, but due to age good ones are hard to find and there is a strong pattern the 911 Turbos sky rocket. Then the 1M is considered by many motoring enthusiasts was one of the greatest M cars built, and with limited numbers of only 450 these are set to become a classic. The 1M I think would be much easier to live with day to day.....normal boot, isofix for my little one, cheaper servicing and better warranties available.
Please let me know your thoughts.
I am looking to buy a weekend toy with future investment potential. Due to needing rear seats I have narrowed down to either a BMW 1M Coupe, or a 996 Turbo. These cars are obviously very different and each have their own pro’s and cons, but from a residuals perspective which would be the smartest buy?
The Porsche is less limited, but due to age good ones are hard to find and there is a strong pattern the 911 Turbos sky rocket. Then the 1M is considered by many motoring enthusiasts was one of the greatest M cars built, and with limited numbers of only 450 these are set to become a classic. The 1M I think would be much easier to live with day to day.....normal boot, isofix for my little one, cheaper servicing and better warranties available.
Please let me know your thoughts.
Rawwr said:
1M for me. The 996TT feels quite anodyne and though I haven't driven a 1M, it was pretty much universally praised for its involvement.
My impression after having done a few of those track experiences and driven a 996 turbo on the road, properly fast and grippy and realistically you wont (or shouldn't) get near the limits on the road but the PASM is a stickler and doesnt allow any shenanigans, it sort of feels like it would play but they wont let you turn it off and if I owned one I am not sure I would want to try, and then have to explain the aftermath 
epic car but not sure I would buy one, but then again, on the road it is probably fine.Remember when they dipped under 20 grand ?
That was the time to buy, now older and more expensive, but at least the engines seem to last a bit better than the same era NA cars, even so, wouldnt get to complacent with all that ancient turbo gubbins in the boot.
J4CKO said:
My impression after having done a few of those track experiences and driven a 996 turbo on the road, properly fast and grippy and realistically you wont (or shouldn't) get near the limits on the road
Remember when they dipped under 20 grand ?
Unless it was a cat C/D or starship mileage I don't remember them being under £20k. Was thinking about buying one a few years back but there didn't seem much sensation of speed until it was going silly fast. Not really what I wanted from a weekend road car.Remember when they dipped under 20 grand ?
blade7 said:
Unless it was a cat C/D or starship mileage I don't remember them being under £20k. Was thinking about buying one a few years back but there didn't seem much sensation of speed until it was going silly fast. Not really what I wanted from a weekend road car.
He's right, I remember seeing a couple of sub-£20k ropey-but-straight examples and a lot of nicer examples at £20-30k.With only 450 built worldwide it makes it a seriously rare and special car and the values will only go up. They may take some time to go up but the running costs during this time will be significantly lower. Comparatively, the 996 Turbo, of which 20,000+ were built worldwide, may cost you a small fortune to run during the time you wait for the values to increase (possibly). From a purely investment perspective I'd go with the 1M over the Turbo all day long.
Also frrom a personal enjoyment perspective, i'd still go with the 1M. It's been revered unanimously by journalists and enthusiasts alike and would be a real joy to own and tick off the petrolhead bucket list. There'll always be opportunities for 911 Turbos.
Also frrom a personal enjoyment perspective, i'd still go with the 1M. It's been revered unanimously by journalists and enthusiasts alike and would be a real joy to own and tick off the petrolhead bucket list. There'll always be opportunities for 911 Turbos.
Vocht said:
With only 450 built worldwide it makes it a seriously rare and special car and the values will only go up. They may take some time to go up but the running costs during this time will be significantly lower. Comparatively, the 996 Turbo, of which 20,000+ were built worldwide, may cost you a small fortune to run during the time you wait for the values to increase (possibly). From a purely investment perspective I'd go with the 1M over the Turbo all day long.
Also frrom a personal enjoyment perspective, i'd still go with the 1M. It's been revered unanimously by journalists and enthusiasts alike and would be a real joy to own and tick off the petrolhead bucket list. There'll always be opportunities for 911 Turbos.
It was 450 UK cars.. there were around 6k built worldwide I think ... I had one and absolutely loved it, kind of a little bit like a Clio V6 in it's ethos... A balls out crazy version of a rather normal car.Also frrom a personal enjoyment perspective, i'd still go with the 1M. It's been revered unanimously by journalists and enthusiasts alike and would be a real joy to own and tick off the petrolhead bucket list. There'll always be opportunities for 911 Turbos.
Why the 996 Turbo?
For the same money as a 1M the 997 Turbo is available.
Very different styles of car, to the non-PH audience the 1M is just another 1 Series, could well be a 116d for all most will care, and this could well be a positive, the 911 will always be a 911 and even non-PH types know what a 911 is, depends if you want to be the flash bloke with the Porsche or the bloke with the noisy 1 series.
For the same money as a 1M the 997 Turbo is available.
Very different styles of car, to the non-PH audience the 1M is just another 1 Series, could well be a 116d for all most will care, and this could well be a positive, the 911 will always be a 911 and even non-PH types know what a 911 is, depends if you want to be the flash bloke with the Porsche or the bloke with the noisy 1 series.
raceboy said:
Why the 996 Turbo?
Very different styles of car, to the non-PH audience the 1M is just another 1 Series, could well be a 116d for all most will care, and this could well be a positive, the 911 will always be a 911 and even non-PH types know what a 911 is, depends if you want to be the flash bloke with the Porsche or the bloke with the noisy 1 series.
This is really very true, my 1M got very little attention and to most people and friends it really was just an old 1 series - Not long after I had a bottom of the market 996 C2 with 170k miles on it and everybody acted like I'd won the lottery ... Very different styles of car, to the non-PH audience the 1M is just another 1 Series, could well be a 116d for all most will care, and this could well be a positive, the 911 will always be a 911 and even non-PH types know what a 911 is, depends if you want to be the flash bloke with the Porsche or the bloke with the noisy 1 series.
milfordkong said:
Vocht said:
With only 450 built worldwide it makes it a seriously rare and special car and the values will only go up. They may take some time to go up but the running costs during this time will be significantly lower. Comparatively, the 996 Turbo, of which 20,000+ were built worldwide, may cost you a small fortune to run during the time you wait for the values to increase (possibly). From a purely investment perspective I'd go with the 1M over the Turbo all day long.
Also frrom a personal enjoyment perspective, i'd still go with the 1M. It's been revered unanimously by journalists and enthusiasts alike and would be a real joy to own and tick off the petrolhead bucket list. There'll always be opportunities for 911 Turbos.
It was 450 UK cars.. there were around 6k built worldwide I think ... I had one and absolutely loved it, kind of a little bit like a Clio V6 in it's ethos... A balls out crazy version of a rather normal car.Also frrom a personal enjoyment perspective, i'd still go with the 1M. It's been revered unanimously by journalists and enthusiasts alike and would be a real joy to own and tick off the petrolhead bucket list. There'll always be opportunities for 911 Turbos.
Rawwr said:
He's right, I remember seeing a couple of sub-£20k ropey-but-straight examples and a lot of nicer examples at £20-30k.
He's not. Care to price an early car, 70k miles, FPSH, recently had 2 new turbos and a clutch in about 2012? I bought at the bottom (by pure fluke). I missed out on a 2004 black car with 50k miles for 22,500 prior to buying my silver car.
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