650pm lease deal - which to choose
650pm lease deal - which to choose
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scotnoob

Original Poster:

100 posts

94 months

Wednesday 28th March 2018
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Hello,

I am very unhappy with my current A4 B9 due to what I consider awful sline suspension and very hard seats. It just doesnt work for my lifestyle and comfort.

I decided to treat myself to a three year lease deal and my limit is 650pm with 5-6k up front.

I think I have it down to these three:

RR sport HSE dynamic 3SDV6
RR velar D300 SE with a few options
Poverty spec Jaguar ipace

I would probably have gone for more of a sports saloon but actually live in the country in scotland. We visit farms, stables etc a lot with truly dreadful private roads. Also, I like being able to mount the verges on these country roads, flexibility in snow, and the space and high riding position.

I lean to the RR sport as it has most space and seems best value. The velar looks best but is somewhat cramped inside and a bit posey. I know all of them are but .. Anyway, the ipace is exciting but scares me a bit tbh. Also, poverty spec is a little stingy on certain items. No leather, for example.

akirk

5,775 posts

135 months

Wednesday 28th March 2018
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newer cars on lease seem to carry a premium - so buying a more established model probably gives you better value for money - this comparison would suggest that - RRS

scotnoob

Original Poster:

100 posts

94 months

Wednesday 28th March 2018
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Thanks I didnt know that.

RRS is a facelift though. Also, the Velar is under heavy discount just now so I would have thought that would factor. The deals suggest otherwise of course.

Dimebars

990 posts

115 months

Wednesday 28th March 2018
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The outgoing X5/6 is available on 0% APR PCP at present

£600 or so a month should buy you a decent spec 40d M Sport model with minimal deposit.

Maybe an alternative to sinking so much in to a lease

scotnoob

Original Poster:

100 posts

94 months

Wednesday 28th March 2018
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This would be my first lease and I confess I am nervous about one.

My logic is that i will 100% hand it back after three years anyway with a PCP. Therefore, there doesnt seem to be any difference? My only worry is dealing with a little lease company rather than a franchise.

Would the lease company try to milk me more over the little scratches to trim etc?

PS dont like BMW suv's. I am sure they are good but just dont think the looks work when raised.

rsbmw

3,466 posts

126 months

Wednesday 28th March 2018
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Any reason for 3 year over 2 year lease? 2 year often seem best value.

People in the lease thread tend to add up all costs (deposit, monthlies, fees) to give a TCO, and then divide by the lease term to give an amortised monthly figure. Best way to compare leases of different terms I feel, as well as different amounts of 'deposit' etc.

mholt1995

569 posts

102 months

Wednesday 28th March 2018
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Have you considered another A4 with alternate spec (adaptive/comfort suspension)? I've got a B9 SE (17" wheels, comfort suspension) and its rather comfortable aside from the fact I've still not found a comfortable driving position for long journeys and the joke of a clutch pedal (1.4T). Suspension is very compliant and bumps aren't really felt that much.

Ticking all the boxes worth ticking and some extras on a 1.4T manual Sport (all the packs, lumbar support, LED head/tail lights, metallic paint, adaptive suspension) puts you at about £500 on a 6+23 on 10k.

If I was to stay with an A4, I'd spend the same amount on a 2.0tfsi s-line DSG with adaptive suspension, comfort+sound pack, driving assistance pack and metallic paint.

Just worth a thought!

rsbmw

3,466 posts

126 months

Wednesday 28th March 2018
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£15k to drive a 1.4 litre repmobile for 2 years frown

IanCress

4,409 posts

187 months

Wednesday 28th March 2018
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Not an SUV I realise, but there has been some good deals on the Volvo V90 Cross Country in the past few weeks, for not much more than half your budget.

lost in espace

6,442 posts

228 months

Wednesday 28th March 2018
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You might be able to get a Tesla on PCP.

Shiv_P

2,984 posts

126 months

Wednesday 28th March 2018
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rsbmw said:
£15k to drive a 1.4 litre repmobile for 2 years frown
The 1.4 is a cracking little engine & I would have one over a tractor 2 litre diesel any day of the week. Quite pokey too and returns good MPG

scotnoob

Original Poster:

100 posts

94 months

Wednesday 28th March 2018
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I had thought three years lease was the sweet spot. 2 years is extra 50 pounds a month, same deposit and you get it for one less year.

I have a 3litre a4 sline avant with 6k of options. I paid 6k deposit and 350pm with 8k discount from autoebid.

I cant bring myself to buy another A4 after making such a loss and to be honest i find it a bit dull. Want a bit more flash. The engine and interior are lovely but I literally hate the ride and seats. Its a constant vibration on fast roads that are anything but totally flat. While the suspension is quite advanced, i put it down to there being so little travel. If I were to go again i would probably get an allroad but its no going back now!

V90 cross country was a serious consideration. The pro looks both sleek and has a very good ride. I guess I am just a bit bias against the badge and its still very expensive on PCP due to high depreciation, classy more than flashy.

Tesla was considered but too low down and I dont really want a massive saloon.



Edited by scotnoob on Wednesday 28th March 12:34

culpz

4,962 posts

133 months

Wednesday 28th March 2018
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Shiv_P said:
rsbmw said:
£15k to drive a 1.4 litre repmobile for 2 years frown
The 1.4 is a cracking little engine & I would have one over a tractor 2 litre diesel any day of the week. Quite pokey too and returns good MPG
I became "accustomed" to it, at best, and that's putting it nicely. The turbo lag was woeful though and the gear ratios felt completely wrong.

It did give me an incredible indicted range of between 500 and 550 miles from a full tank, but there's no way on earth i was actually getting that.

Shiv_P

2,984 posts

126 months

Wednesday 28th March 2018
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Have you tried one with traditional comfort suspension or adaptive suspension? Or you definitely don't want another A4?

scotnoob

Original Poster:

100 posts

94 months

Wednesday 28th March 2018
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I was so upset with it that I found a near identical model but that was a "sport" trim. and faked interest/had a test drive. It rode much better but hard to be sure when not on your own roads, and with a salesman in the seat next to you. Not worth the 3k to change i figured. Having said that, the seats were far, far better in that model.

At the end of the day I think these junior execs are firmer than family cars or the model up eg A6. Audi's especially so and slines more on top.

Still, its almost a principle thing now. I have negative equity so I would be paying a huge amount of money just to change spec. Its more justifiable in my head if I change to new car.

For some context, I have young kid and another on the way. This and my lifestyle mean I have no spare time and the only "me thing" i have pleasure in is driving. Given I live in the country and drive a lot it makes "man sense" to spend my excess income on a fancy car. In three years time the situation will probably change and I might not go quite as fancy again.

Its a three year treat and i need to get it right this time.



Croutons

12,544 posts

187 months

Wednesday 28th March 2018
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Then take the RRS, but over 2 years, as less servicing etc, 3 years can = lots of consumables needed on a car you're handing back.

scotnoob

Original Poster:

100 posts

94 months

Wednesday 28th March 2018
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Interesting point on consumables I hadnt considered. Still ...

3 year deal is about 591+ 5500 for 3 years
2 year is about 640 + 5900 for 2 years

https://www.contracthireandleasing.com/personal/ca...

Any idea how much the service plus consumables would be on top of that? More than 1k? I think given the initial payment is 6k, that additional year seems good value unless consumable very high.


Mo28

907 posts

121 months

Wednesday 28th March 2018
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Considered a Audi Q7

rsbmw

3,466 posts

126 months

Wednesday 28th March 2018
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scotnoob said:
Interesting point on consumables I hadnt considered. Still ...

3 year deal is about 591+ 5500 for 3 years
2 year is about 640 + 5900 for 2 years

https://www.contracthireandleasing.com/personal/ca...

Any idea how much the service plus consumables would be on top of that? More than 1k? I think given the initial payment is 6k, that additional year seems good value unless consumable very high.
leasing works best if you're flexible on car choice and wait for a deal to come up. Keep an eye on the lease thread.

trowelhead

1,867 posts

142 months

Wednesday 28th March 2018
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scotnoob said:
Interesting point on consumables I hadnt considered. Still ...

3 year deal is about 591+ 5500 for 3 years
2 year is about 640 + 5900 for 2 years

https://www.contracthireandleasing.com/personal/ca...

Any idea how much the service plus consumables would be on top of that? More than 1k? I think given the initial payment is 6k, that additional year seems good value unless consumable very high.
I'm looking to order a new RRS either pcp or lease, 2 year lease does make sense

They are brilliant btw, i'm coming from a 2014 and will be the first time i've got 2 of the same car consecutively.

I want some options though, heated steering wheel, met paint etc