Which BMW X5? 15K budget
Discussion
MIL has decided to upgrade her car and has settled on an X5 which i am tasked to find.
Her budget is 15K and am looking for 2010 onwards as this has the slightley new Idrive controller.
The bit i am unsure of is which version of the 3 litre diesel should we be looking at?
30D
35D or the 40D?
Like the idea of the 40D but would these be less realible than the 30 D or 35 d?
Any pointers and advice would be great.....
Her budget is 15K and am looking for 2010 onwards as this has the slightley new Idrive controller.
The bit i am unsure of is which version of the 3 litre diesel should we be looking at?
30D
35D or the 40D?
Like the idea of the 40D but would these be less realible than the 30 D or 35 d?
Any pointers and advice would be great.....
ZX10R NIN said:
The 35d & 40d are pretty much the same car drivetrain wise so buy the best one you can get of the 3 the 35/40d are the ones I'd be looking at.
Not sure that's quite correct iirc. The 30d and 40d both use N57 but the 35d M57 (may be wrong engine codes). 40d was the replacement for 35d at the 2010 facelift so ideally look for a 30d or 40d post 2010 to get the updated bumpers, lights etc and also look for professional audio as usually BMW standard audio is like an asthamtic coughing through a funnelIf you are so inclined a "box" or remap will take a 30d to above 40d performance but try both engines and see whether you actually need the extra performance. Obviously a remap on a 40d will increase this further above a mapped 30d
EDIT also the facelift added the superior 8 speed auto gearbox so another reason to look for a facelift car compared to the previous 6 speed fitted to the 35d etc
Edited by Shiv_P on Thursday 12th April 15:33
All good engines, depends how much of a concern economy is.
At this price point I would be more attentive of condition and service history. Bear in mind you’re potentially looking at £1000 for a set of tyres (19/20/21” run flats) so look for fresh rubber, recent full inspection 2 service, replaced consumable items such as brakes and filters
At this price point I would be more attentive of condition and service history. Bear in mind you’re potentially looking at £1000 for a set of tyres (19/20/21” run flats) so look for fresh rubber, recent full inspection 2 service, replaced consumable items such as brakes and filters
Shiv_P said:
Not sure that's quite correct iirc. The 30d and 40d both use N57 but the 35d M57 (may be wrong engine codes). 40d was the replacement for 35d at the 2010 facelift so ideally look for a 30d or 40d post 2010 to get the updated bumpers, lights etc and also look for professional audio as usually BMW standard audio is like an asthamtic coughing through a funnel
If you are so inclined a "box" or remap will take a 30d to above 40d performance but try both engines and see whether you actually need the extra performance. Obviously a remap on a 40d will increase this further above a mapped 30d
EDIT also the facelift added the superior 8 speed auto gearbox so another reason to look for a facelift car compared to the previous 6 speed fitted to the 35d etc
The 40d is an updated version of the TT 3.0d lump found in the 35d the 30d is a single turbo diesel.If you are so inclined a "box" or remap will take a 30d to above 40d performance but try both engines and see whether you actually need the extra performance. Obviously a remap on a 40d will increase this further above a mapped 30d
EDIT also the facelift added the superior 8 speed auto gearbox so another reason to look for a facelift car compared to the previous 6 speed fitted to the 35d etc
Edited by Shiv_P on Thursday 12th April 15:33
Just sold my 30d 2010 which was pre-LCI in terms of exterior styling but did have the LCI sat nav/hard drive/idrive system so just be sure exactly what your getting. MPG on all engines is poor, anyone that says otherwise is stretching the truth a little - i was expecting 28ish from mine however the computer never showed more than 24, although my commute was 8ish miles each way so perhaps it wasn't the right sort of journey.
Tyres are very expensive, I had the 20" optional ones and the rears were £450 each, bear in mind you should by * rated tyres otherwise there are reports of non * rated tyres winding up the drive system and causing some costly problems. I also suffered with a battery fault which was covered under warranty, the rear lights (boot ones) are prone to water ingress and eventually the light fittings blow and these are quite expensive to replace if going genuine. The rear suspension is self levelling airbags which over time do fail and can loose air which results in a lop-sided X5.
It was a very luxurious place to spend time though, every journey it took in its stride and felt 100% planted and safe no matter what the weather. Acres of room inside too and a real pleasure to travel in. I bought mine AUC from BMW and it came with breakdown and warranty which was well used, if you can buy one approved I would go for it otherwise look for a good warranty.
X Drivers forum is a great place, very welcoming and full of information, with regard to the models and from a damage limitation point of view I would stick to a 30d. The 35d has a drinking problem and is very costly if it goes wrong and the 40d at £15k is likely to be a bit leggy.
Good luck - they are super cars.
Si
Tyres are very expensive, I had the 20" optional ones and the rears were £450 each, bear in mind you should by * rated tyres otherwise there are reports of non * rated tyres winding up the drive system and causing some costly problems. I also suffered with a battery fault which was covered under warranty, the rear lights (boot ones) are prone to water ingress and eventually the light fittings blow and these are quite expensive to replace if going genuine. The rear suspension is self levelling airbags which over time do fail and can loose air which results in a lop-sided X5.
It was a very luxurious place to spend time though, every journey it took in its stride and felt 100% planted and safe no matter what the weather. Acres of room inside too and a real pleasure to travel in. I bought mine AUC from BMW and it came with breakdown and warranty which was well used, if you can buy one approved I would go for it otherwise look for a good warranty.
X Drivers forum is a great place, very welcoming and full of information, with regard to the models and from a damage limitation point of view I would stick to a 30d. The 35d has a drinking problem and is very costly if it goes wrong and the 40d at £15k is likely to be a bit leggy.
Good luck - they are super cars.
Si
ZX10R NIN said:
Shiv_P said:
Not sure that's quite correct iirc. The 30d and 40d both use N57 but the 35d M57 (may be wrong engine codes). 40d was the replacement for 35d at the 2010 facelift so ideally look for a 30d or 40d post 2010 to get the updated bumpers, lights etc and also look for professional audio as usually BMW standard audio is like an asthamtic coughing through a funnel
If you are so inclined a "box" or remap will take a 30d to above 40d performance but try both engines and see whether you actually need the extra performance. Obviously a remap on a 40d will increase this further above a mapped 30d
EDIT also the facelift added the superior 8 speed auto gearbox so another reason to look for a facelift car compared to the previous 6 speed fitted to the 35d etc
The 40d is an updated version of the TT 3.0d lump found in the 35d the 30d is a single turbo diesel.If you are so inclined a "box" or remap will take a 30d to above 40d performance but try both engines and see whether you actually need the extra performance. Obviously a remap on a 40d will increase this further above a mapped 30d
EDIT also the facelift added the superior 8 speed auto gearbox so another reason to look for a facelift car compared to the previous 6 speed fitted to the 35d etc
Edited by Shiv_P on Thursday 12th April 15:33
SiT said:
Tyres are very expensive, I had the 20" optional ones and the rears were £450 each
Some good stuff here - thanks everyone ..
Looks like will stick to the 30d and try and get an LCI one - as it’s for MIL she is not bothered with M sport versions so an SE with the small alloys will be fine - fortunately these are also slightly cheaper but want one with the right options ....
Looks like will stick to the 30d and try and get an LCI one - as it’s for MIL she is not bothered with M sport versions so an SE with the small alloys will be fine - fortunately these are also slightly cheaper but want one with the right options ....
SiT said:
Just sold my 30d 2010 which was pre-LCI in terms of exterior styling but did have the LCI sat nav/hard drive/idrive system so just be sure exactly what your getting. MPG on all engines is poor, anyone that says otherwise is stretching the truth a little - i was expecting 28ish from mine however the computer never showed more than 24, although my commute was 8ish miles each way so perhaps it wasn't the right sort of journey.
Tyres are very expensive, I had the 20" optional ones and the rears were £450 each, bear in mind you should by * rated tyres otherwise there are reports of non * rated tyres winding up the drive system and causing some costly problems. I also suffered with a battery fault which was covered under warranty, the rear lights (boot ones) are prone to water ingress and eventually the light fittings blow and these are quite expensive to replace if going genuine. The rear suspension is self levelling airbags which over time do fail and can loose air which results in a lop-sided X5.
It was a very luxurious place to spend time though, every journey it took in its stride and felt 100% planted and safe no matter what the weather. Acres of room inside too and a real pleasure to travel in. I bought mine AUC from BMW and it came with breakdown and warranty which was well used, if you can buy one approved I would go for it otherwise look for a good warranty.
X Drivers forum is a great place, very welcoming and full of information, with regard to the models and from a damage limitation point of view I would stick to a 30d. The 35d has a drinking problem and is very costly if it goes wrong and the 40d at £15k is likely to be a bit leggy.
Good luck - they are super cars.
Si
It sounds like a potentially deep money pit. I'm not sure why somebody would want to buy a used one. Tyres are very expensive, I had the 20" optional ones and the rears were £450 each, bear in mind you should by * rated tyres otherwise there are reports of non * rated tyres winding up the drive system and causing some costly problems. I also suffered with a battery fault which was covered under warranty, the rear lights (boot ones) are prone to water ingress and eventually the light fittings blow and these are quite expensive to replace if going genuine. The rear suspension is self levelling airbags which over time do fail and can loose air which results in a lop-sided X5.
It was a very luxurious place to spend time though, every journey it took in its stride and felt 100% planted and safe no matter what the weather. Acres of room inside too and a real pleasure to travel in. I bought mine AUC from BMW and it came with breakdown and warranty which was well used, if you can buy one approved I would go for it otherwise look for a good warranty.
X Drivers forum is a great place, very welcoming and full of information, with regard to the models and from a damage limitation point of view I would stick to a 30d. The 35d has a drinking problem and is very costly if it goes wrong and the 40d at £15k is likely to be a bit leggy.
Good luck - they are super cars.
Si
MC Bodge said:
It sounds like a potentially deep money pit. I'm not sure why somebody would want to buy a used one.
Agreed ... but I think any car of this age in the luxury SUV category will be the same!I can't imagine many problems/faults would cost less than four figures to put right .... The uplift for an AUC would likely pay for itself.
My AUC renewal quote was over £2000.00 including continuation of the Assist breakdown product but when you consider the rear lights for example, both the inner halfs were over £500.00 for the pair, labour and gaskets was £216 that's over £700 in one visit not taking into account the cost of the alternator/battery and subsequent airbag failure and replacement!
They certainly aren't cheap cars but like has already been said, any 8-10 year old premium SUV is going to be similar whether its ML, X5, Touareg or LR product. If you need space, granted you could buy an A6 Avant however the X5 was a supremely competent vehicle and as a family load lugger couldn't be beaten in my eyes.
If your not specifically after an M-Sport that's good news as the SE is far more comfortable and as you say has smaller wheels and tyres which is good news.
Si
They certainly aren't cheap cars but like has already been said, any 8-10 year old premium SUV is going to be similar whether its ML, X5, Touareg or LR product. If you need space, granted you could buy an A6 Avant however the X5 was a supremely competent vehicle and as a family load lugger couldn't be beaten in my eyes.
If your not specifically after an M-Sport that's good news as the SE is far more comfortable and as you say has smaller wheels and tyres which is good news.
Si
HJMS123 said:
MC Bodge said:
It sounds like a potentially deep money pit. I'm not sure why somebody would want to buy a used one.
Agreed ... but I think any car of this age in the luxury SUV category will be the same!I can't imagine many problems/faults would cost less than four figures to put right .... The uplift for an AUC would likely pay for itself.
Big Estate car for me.
She’s not a petrol head but wants an SUV and makes regular use of the boot especially with seats folded flat...
Her current car is a 2006 ML 320 CDI which she’s pretty much run to the ground over the last 5 years
I suggested Lexus rx450h but she wasn’t keen on the interior ..
Am open to suggestions but she has ruled out another ML , Cayenne and XC90
Her current car is a 2006 ML 320 CDI which she’s pretty much run to the ground over the last 5 years
I suggested Lexus rx450h but she wasn’t keen on the interior ..
Am open to suggestions but she has ruled out another ML , Cayenne and XC90
Why not look at nissan qashqai etc size? Does she want/need such a large car?
VW Touareg https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
Jeep grand cherokee https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
RAV4? https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
VW Touareg https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
Jeep grand cherokee https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
RAV4? https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
fizz47 said:
She’s not a petrol head but wants an SUV and makes regular use of the boot especially with seats folded flat...
Her current car is a 2006 ML 320 CDI which she’s pretty much run to the ground over the last 5 years
I suggested Lexus rx450h but she wasn’t keen on the interior ..
Am open to suggestions but she has ruled out another ML , Cayenne and XC90
It may not take her long to run the X5 you pick for her into the ground. Her current car is a 2006 ML 320 CDI which she’s pretty much run to the ground over the last 5 years
I suggested Lexus rx450h but she wasn’t keen on the interior ..
Am open to suggestions but she has ruled out another ML , Cayenne and XC90
-She might just torch it when the tyre bills come in.
SO taking all into consideartion and speaking to MIL we have slightly expanded our search...
She would now consider an X3 as long as its fully loaded and gets most of the toys the X5 has - ive also persuaded her to look at Lexus Rx450H.
Need to take her out on a test drive for the lexus to see how she likes it or not..
She would now consider an X3 as long as its fully loaded and gets most of the toys the X5 has - ive also persuaded her to look at Lexus Rx450H.
Need to take her out on a test drive for the lexus to see how she likes it or not..
fizz47 said:
SO taking all into consideartion and speaking to MIL we have slightly expanded our search...
She would now consider an X3 as long as its fully loaded and gets most of the toys the X5 has - ive also persuaded her to look at Lexus Rx450H.
Need to take her out on a test drive for the lexus to see how she likes it or not..
Be aware of the ride quality. Some Rx are very hardShe would now consider an X3 as long as its fully loaded and gets most of the toys the X5 has - ive also persuaded her to look at Lexus Rx450H.
Need to take her out on a test drive for the lexus to see how she likes it or not..
fizz47 said:
SO taking all into consideartion and speaking to MIL we have slightly expanded our search...
She would now consider an X3 as long as its fully loaded and gets most of the toys the X5 has - ive also persuaded her to look at Lexus Rx450H.
Need to take her out on a test drive for the lexus to see how she likes it or not..
What do you define as being fully loaded? Last time I looked at X3s, the vast majority didn't have xenons especially with your budget. And that's before you consider going for the 30d. She would now consider an X3 as long as its fully loaded and gets most of the toys the X5 has - ive also persuaded her to look at Lexus Rx450H.
Need to take her out on a test drive for the lexus to see how she likes it or not..
I've not experienced it myself, by I've heard that the boot of the RX is much smaller as the hybrid system is in the boot.
S54Love said:
What do you define as being fully loaded? Last time I looked at X3s, the vast majority didn't have xenons especially with your budget. And that's before you consider going for the 30d.
I've not experienced it myself, by I've heard that the boot of the RX is much smaller as the hybrid system is in the boot.
The boot is shallowI've not experienced it myself, by I've heard that the boot of the RX is much smaller as the hybrid system is in the boot.
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