C63 to Integra type r
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I’ve had a c63 for the last year, love it and by far the best car I’ve owned a definite must for any petrol head! Anyway, couple weeks again I reversed into a lads car, minor scuff 100% my fault, told the lad if he gets a quote il pay for it to be fixed he agreed.
Two weeks later insurance ring to say he’s made a claim and my insurance has now doubled to a whopping £3k! Which I’m most certainly not paying come renewal time so on the hunt for something else, lead me searching all sorts and eyeing up a few Integra type r’s (dc5).
Always fancied them and had an ep3 type r about 7 years ago and loved it! Thing is, are they good memories past and that il probably hate that type of car now? Do very little driving for commute and other bits so be mainly for fun and want to get back into track days (had an Impreza before the 63 and was a full track day addict!)
Anyone own one now/ have any opinions/ recommendations or maybe other cars I could look at similar price that would entertain? Would it feel slow and tiresome after the sti/63, may consider supercharging if I do enjoy the drive!
Also I’m 30 this year will I look like and old man trying to cling onto some boy racer youth!
Cheers
Two weeks later insurance ring to say he’s made a claim and my insurance has now doubled to a whopping £3k! Which I’m most certainly not paying come renewal time so on the hunt for something else, lead me searching all sorts and eyeing up a few Integra type r’s (dc5).
Always fancied them and had an ep3 type r about 7 years ago and loved it! Thing is, are they good memories past and that il probably hate that type of car now? Do very little driving for commute and other bits so be mainly for fun and want to get back into track days (had an Impreza before the 63 and was a full track day addict!)
Anyone own one now/ have any opinions/ recommendations or maybe other cars I could look at similar price that would entertain? Would it feel slow and tiresome after the sti/63, may consider supercharging if I do enjoy the drive!
Also I’m 30 this year will I look like and old man trying to cling onto some boy racer youth!
Cheers
Edited by G13NVL on Wednesday 9th May 18:26
Would suggest you try shopping around on the insurance on the C63 first, given how much you seem to be enjoying it...might be the case that you can do significantly better than the £3k renewal you’re being quoted. Then you can make the decision based on some realistic numbers at least...
Old man at 30! Behave.
Do as above and shop around for cheaper insurance. If you've grown to enjoy something like the Merc then I doubt you'll enjoy a dc5 at the moment. You'll feel your time with the Merc was cut short. It usually takes many years of driving faster saloons/bigger cars trying to capture the enjoyment before you realise those old hatchbacks of your youth werent just good because you were 20 and didn't know any better. Its why the prices of late 80s/early 90 hot hatches are shooting up right now.
Do as above and shop around for cheaper insurance. If you've grown to enjoy something like the Merc then I doubt you'll enjoy a dc5 at the moment. You'll feel your time with the Merc was cut short. It usually takes many years of driving faster saloons/bigger cars trying to capture the enjoyment before you realise those old hatchbacks of your youth werent just good because you were 20 and didn't know any better. Its why the prices of late 80s/early 90 hot hatches are shooting up right now.
I had a quick look on confused and they were all £2k+ I thought the £1300 last year was a lot for insurance but I really wanted to try a c63! Integra coming out at about £800ish which seems a bargain in comparison!
I do love the merc but I changed jobs a few months ago and commute is about a mile now which il probably pushbike when the weathers better so it’s only used for pottering around town to shops/gym etc and it’s not really a track car so was considering something more ‘driver focused’ and this renewal malarkey has tipped it the scales.
I do love the merc but I changed jobs a few months ago and commute is about a mile now which il probably pushbike when the weathers better so it’s only used for pottering around town to shops/gym etc and it’s not really a track car so was considering something more ‘driver focused’ and this renewal malarkey has tipped it the scales.
Ahbefive said:
If you are getting back into track days the megane R26 wipes the floor with integras. Supercharged may be a different story however but that would cost twice as much as an R26.
Mines yellow and I'm 36 but I do also have a sensible car.
I do have a soft spot for these especially in that colour only thing is there seems to loads of these/Clio’s/st’s/civics around my area and very rarely see an Integra although a supercharged Clio road legal track car popped up for sale on a FB Page that took my interest! Mines yellow and I'm 36 but I do also have a sensible car.
Edited by Ahbefive on Wednesday 9th May 20:45
OP, They are obviously very different cars, so if you’re going to compare them to each other, you probably need a turbo of some sort - torque vs revs.
Having said that, type rs are generally brilliant drivers’ cars in their own right, and far more engaging than all/most other hot hatches. The DC5 is more refined, and less fun than a DC2 in my view. But both require you to really rev them out, unlike the torquey 6.2 you’re used to. Best of both worlds, if you can insure it for sensible money, would be an FK2 - turbo charged, and more mechanical/engaging than the newer FK8.
Having said that, type rs are generally brilliant drivers’ cars in their own right, and far more engaging than all/most other hot hatches. The DC5 is more refined, and less fun than a DC2 in my view. But both require you to really rev them out, unlike the torquey 6.2 you’re used to. Best of both worlds, if you can insure it for sensible money, would be an FK2 - turbo charged, and more mechanical/engaging than the newer FK8.
That minor scuff must be a major bump. Crumple zones damaged geo of car out of line etc.
I think the days of paying for the damage to avoid insurance route are long gone so many complex things on cars these days it’s a huge cost to fix. Also the other chap will require another form of transport whilst his is being repaired which can add up very quickly.
Shop around for quotes - though I guess until this one is settled getting an accurate requirement elsewheee is not straight forward as you have to be clear on these issues cost date damage who’s to blame.
I think the days of paying for the damage to avoid insurance route are long gone so many complex things on cars these days it’s a huge cost to fix. Also the other chap will require another form of transport whilst his is being repaired which can add up very quickly.
Shop around for quotes - though I guess until this one is settled getting an accurate requirement elsewheee is not straight forward as you have to be clear on these issues cost date damage who’s to blame.
G13NVL said:
I do have a soft spot for these especially in that colour only thing is there seems to loads of these/Clio’s/st’s/civics around my area and very rarely see an Integra although a supercharged Clio road legal track car popped up for sale on a FB Page that took my interest!
Surprising considering the R26 is a numbered, limited edition car with only approx 3600 ever made, meaning it's a less common sight than a mk1 focus RS and with all the performance but for half the money.I only ever see other ones when I am on track.
Welshbeef said:
That minor scuff must be a major bump. Crumple zones damaged geo of car out of line etc.
I think the days of paying for the damage to avoid insurance route are long gone so many complex things on cars these days it’s a huge cost to fix. Also the other chap will require another form of transport whilst his is being repaired which can add up very quickly.
Shop around for quotes - though I guess until this one is settled getting an accurate requirement elsewheee is not straight forward as you have to be clear on these issues cost date damage who’s to blame.
Was certainly a minor bump but the car was an old tatty 3 series and apparently they wrote it off to sound off £2880! I think the days of paying for the damage to avoid insurance route are long gone so many complex things on cars these days it’s a huge cost to fix. Also the other chap will require another form of transport whilst his is being repaired which can add up very quickly.
Shop around for quotes - though I guess until this one is settled getting an accurate requirement elsewheee is not straight forward as you have to be clear on these issues cost date damage who’s to blame.
Alpinestars said:
OP, They are obviously very different cars, so if you’re going to compare them to each other, you probably need a turbo of some sort - torque vs revs.
Having said that, type rs are generally brilliant drivers’ cars in their own right, and far more engaging than all/most other hot hatches. The DC5 is more refined, and less fun than a DC2 in my view. But both require you to really rev them out, unlike the torquey 6.2 you’re used to. Best of both worlds, if you can insure it for sensible money, would be an FK2 - turbo charged, and more mechanical/engaging than the newer FK8.
I do like the fk2 fancied one since they came out but are still quite pricey would prefer something cheaper and throw the spare 10k off the mortgage (must be getting old)! Having said that, type rs are generally brilliant drivers’ cars in their own right, and far more engaging than all/most other hot hatches. The DC5 is more refined, and less fun than a DC2 in my view. But both require you to really rev them out, unlike the torquey 6.2 you’re used to. Best of both worlds, if you can insure it for sensible money, would be an FK2 - turbo charged, and more mechanical/engaging than the newer FK8.
DC5's are incredible, no doubt about it. With the right tyres and suspension they are extremely difficult to unstick and the cornering becomes addictive.
With that said, as others have mentioned, they have very different characteristics to the C63 and I imagine they would feel quite slow at first in comparison. Once you get used to the lack of torque and realise you are actually moving pretty fast (even if it doesn't feel like it sometimes) then there is so much fun to be had out of them.
I drive a CL7 Accord (same K20, LSD and running gear as a DC5 but in a saloon), my mate has a DC5. Now my car handles pretty damn well, but I drove his car again for the first time in ages the other day and the handling just blew me away. Puts mine to shame.
With that said, as others have mentioned, they have very different characteristics to the C63 and I imagine they would feel quite slow at first in comparison. Once you get used to the lack of torque and realise you are actually moving pretty fast (even if it doesn't feel like it sometimes) then there is so much fun to be had out of them.
I drive a CL7 Accord (same K20, LSD and running gear as a DC5 but in a saloon), my mate has a DC5. Now my car handles pretty damn well, but I drove his car again for the first time in ages the other day and the handling just blew me away. Puts mine to shame.
Welshbeef said:
OP you do realise that even if you do have to pay £3k insurance (which is far beyond what it will be) you will net lose far more than £3k in the cost of buying and selling the cars
That’s assuming he will never sell the current car - it’s a cashflow issue, not a cost per se. And the cost of insurance is annual. Keep the current car for 3 years and that’s 9k. And what you save is 3k in 3 years’ time to change the car, versus 3k now.
(in reality, the insurance delta is 3k vs whatever the new car costs to insure. And you have to take into account all the running costs, depreciation etc to get a fair view of the difference).
Welshbeef said:
OP you do realise that even if you do have to pay £3k insurance (which is far beyond what it will be) you will net lose far more than £3k in the cost of buying and selling the cars
Why is it far beyond what it will be? The cheapest quote iv had so far was £2300 I think which is still £1500 more than an Integra and would be still be more every year onwards and I doubt the Integra would depreciate as much as the c63 will. And I could pay the cost I just don’t want to as I think it’s far to much on insurance. I could spend Hundreds on some fancy sunglasses but I’d rather spend £12 on some cheap ones. Gassing Station | Car Buying | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff