Electric Vehicles & Hybrids
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been looking into this as well, carwow do some very good videos on these cars
from what i can see most the of the PHEVs have tiny batteries just big enough for the regs but certainly not enough for the 40 miles a day i do in london, and in testing they only seam to get diesel mpg
except the prius but it looks bloody awful, although not as bad as the idiot clown car design of the i3
the outlander is big but a giant wallowy dollop of a car, the kia niro maybe a better compromise between interior space and driving like a car
from what i can see most the of the PHEVs have tiny batteries just big enough for the regs but certainly not enough for the 40 miles a day i do in london, and in testing they only seam to get diesel mpg
except the prius but it looks bloody awful, although not as bad as the idiot clown car design of the i3
the outlander is big but a giant wallowy dollop of a car, the kia niro maybe a better compromise between interior space and driving like a car
Dave Hedgehog said:
been looking into this as well, carwow do some very good videos on these cars
from what i can see most the of the PHEVs have tiny batteries just big enough for the regs but certainly not enough for the 40 miles a day i do in london, and in testing they only seam to get diesel mpg
except the prius but it looks bloody awful, although not as bad as the idiot clown car design of the i3
the outlander is big but a giant wallowy dollop of a car, the kia niro maybe a better compromise between interior space and driving like a car
Amazing how badly they can design some of the electric cars. Initially my thoughts were its like picking the best shade of dog sh*t.from what i can see most the of the PHEVs have tiny batteries just big enough for the regs but certainly not enough for the 40 miles a day i do in london, and in testing they only seam to get diesel mpg
except the prius but it looks bloody awful, although not as bad as the idiot clown car design of the i3
the outlander is big but a giant wallowy dollop of a car, the kia niro maybe a better compromise between interior space and driving like a car
Why is electric vehicle shopping like this.
For the most part its the Tesla's that actually look good but until the Model 3 comes out, they're hardly affordable!
Dr1ve said:
Why is electric vehicle shopping like this.
There's a big electric vehicle showroom/demo place in Milton Keynes that might be worth a visit if you're anywhere in that part of the country and want to test drive a few different ones.https://evexperiencecentre.co.uk/
I've had a Leaf on Pesonal lease for the last 2.5 years.
I do 120 miles per day commuting in it so have to charge near work.
That's the biggest problem as there are not too many free places.
I managed to bluff my way to park in a big Tescos for the whole day for free.
Before that I used a public charging point at a football ground but it got busier and busier and finally they removed it due to redevelopment of the car park.
I pay £292 pcm but will go over my allowance of 2ok miles by quite a lot when I return it in Jan 19.
It's a good commuter but I am a little bored with it now.
It's the longest I've kept a car ever.
Test driving the new one next week but I think it will too expensive on a lease so will go back to a £2k diesel.
Not sure I could have one as our only car but it's comfortable, well equipped and well made.
I do 120 miles per day commuting in it so have to charge near work.
That's the biggest problem as there are not too many free places.
I managed to bluff my way to park in a big Tescos for the whole day for free.
Before that I used a public charging point at a football ground but it got busier and busier and finally they removed it due to redevelopment of the car park.
I pay £292 pcm but will go over my allowance of 2ok miles by quite a lot when I return it in Jan 19.
It's a good commuter but I am a little bored with it now.
It's the longest I've kept a car ever.
Test driving the new one next week but I think it will too expensive on a lease so will go back to a £2k diesel.
Not sure I could have one as our only car but it's comfortable, well equipped and well made.
Squadrone Rosso said:
We’re heading for a year / 10k miles in my wife’s sensible daily. Top spec Toyota C-HR Hybrid.
Really very happy with it, including myself, which I’m gobsmaked at as I thought it would be everything I hated in a car.
I'm considering one of these at the moment. Really very happy with it, including myself, which I’m gobsmaked at as I thought it would be everything I hated in a car.
They are expensive but do come well equipped.
I've run an i3 as a daily for the last 16 months/14k miles.
It's a brilliant daily. It's also a genuine 4 seater (although strictly 4 seater as there is no middle bench seat) and it is used several times a month with 4 adults in the car for long and short journeys. The boot is also surprisingly big - the footprint of the car is smaller than the last gen Fiesta and the interior space is definitely bigger.
Much as I love it, I'm not sure I'd want to run it as a daily family car. The rear doors can be a little complicated in a cramped car park and whilst it causes no issue for me, I doubt kids would have the same patience/reluctance to slam the door against neighbouring cars that my in-laws have! I also suspect that some of the interior materials in the i3 would not stand up to the sort of abuse that children inflict upon a car.
If I was after an EV as a family car I'd go for a Leaf. It's not as good a drive as the i3, but it's a bit bigger and I suspect more child-friendly.
It's a brilliant daily. It's also a genuine 4 seater (although strictly 4 seater as there is no middle bench seat) and it is used several times a month with 4 adults in the car for long and short journeys. The boot is also surprisingly big - the footprint of the car is smaller than the last gen Fiesta and the interior space is definitely bigger.
Much as I love it, I'm not sure I'd want to run it as a daily family car. The rear doors can be a little complicated in a cramped car park and whilst it causes no issue for me, I doubt kids would have the same patience/reluctance to slam the door against neighbouring cars that my in-laws have! I also suspect that some of the interior materials in the i3 would not stand up to the sort of abuse that children inflict upon a car.
If I was after an EV as a family car I'd go for a Leaf. It's not as good a drive as the i3, but it's a bit bigger and I suspect more child-friendly.
Whats your daily mileage and can u charge at home?
We have the golf GTE
Awesome. 25 miles + on battery or you can run it as a 200bhp hatch.
We've used £30 petrol in 1200 miles.
Passat uses a similar drive train with slighlty bigger batteries
If you can get cheap lease deals still I wouldn't look any further than these 2.
We have the golf GTE
Awesome. 25 miles + on battery or you can run it as a 200bhp hatch.
We've used £30 petrol in 1200 miles.
Passat uses a similar drive train with slighlty bigger batteries
If you can get cheap lease deals still I wouldn't look any further than these 2.
Big GT said:
Whats your daily mileage and can u charge at home?
We have the golf GTE
Awesome. 25 miles + on battery or you can run it as a 200bhp hatch.
We've used £30 petrol in 1200 miles.
Passat uses a similar drive train with slighlty bigger batteries
If you can get cheap lease deals still I wouldn't look any further than these 2.
The GTE does look good, funnily enough was looking at the used ones but not sure what the deal with the batteries would be.We have the golf GTE
Awesome. 25 miles + on battery or you can run it as a 200bhp hatch.
We've used £30 petrol in 1200 miles.
Passat uses a similar drive train with slighlty bigger batteries
If you can get cheap lease deals still I wouldn't look any further than these 2.
Yes the PHEV's seem more realistic and would help with charging anxiety!
After 2.5 years and 32.5k miles in an i3, I won’t be getting another (want more than four seats and more than 200 miles leccy range). I have mostly enjoyed it - the rapid acceleration from standing start has surprised a few people, but the rear doors are irritating, the a pillar has a huge blind spot and the ride is pretty bouncy. Despite the rubbish range (mine struggles to get over 70 miles in the winter) I have worked hard at using leccy as much as possible and as little petrol (it’s a rex) as possible. So I think I have only done around 400-500 petrol miles - I don’t think I have filled the petrol tank up more than 5 or 6 times. What else to get though? Hopefully an iPace will be next but not exactly cheap!
Composite Guru said:
Squadrone Rosso said:
We’re heading for a year / 10k miles in my wife’s sensible daily. Top spec Toyota C-HR Hybrid.
Really very happy with it, including myself, which I’m gobsmaked at as I thought it would be everything I hated in a car.
I'm considering one of these at the moment. Really very happy with it, including myself, which I’m gobsmaked at as I thought it would be everything I hated in a car.
They are expensive but do come well equipped.
sawman said:
Squadrone Rosso said:
We’re heading for a year / 10k miles in my wife’s sensible daily. Top spec Toyota C-HR Hybrid.
Really very happy with it, including myself, which I’m gobsmaked at as I thought it would be everything I hated in a car.
What mpg are you averaging over the 10k??Really very happy with it, including myself, which I’m gobsmaked at as I thought it would be everything I hated in a car.
I tend to drive it properly but my wife is more jump in and stamp on it. If I use it to work, 8 miles from cold, all up hill, 48mpg. Return trip is 99mpg.
12 of the 16 are on the M4.
Ref the comments about sitting in the back, I’ve made a point of asking what it’s like. No complaints or sick from my notoriously sensitive niece & nephew.
I’ve spent 3 hours as a back seat passenger too. No complaints from me. 5’11” fat bloke with bad spinal problems & arthritis. Very comfortable for 2 people.
I genuinely don’t get the plastic comments either. Ok, not quite to the ultimate quality of our Audi but standing up well to the abuse it gets.
The looks get a lot of attention. Strangers ask you if it’s a concept car or if it can be bought.
Ours is an early Limited Edition Car. Basically a Dynamic variant with extra kit.
The rumours about it getting the forthcoming 180bhp Auris Hybrid engine are interesting.
Ours is my wife’s job funded car. I think she’ll go Lexus Hybrid when the 3 years are up.
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