New(ish) Diesel car?

[branchini1979]

Hi guys,

Hoping you can help.
I am after a newish car and looking at crossovers. I have a budget of approx £7500.
Thing is you get more for your money I am finding with diesel cars and a lot better mpg for my long journeys but... Will this be a bad idea in the long run with the way diesel will be taxed etc.
I am after a suv crossover that achieves above 60 mpg and less than £30 tax.
Current diesels achieve this for type of car but worried about car in say 5 years.
Any advice?

Thank you

[Mammasaid]

branchini1979 said:

Hi guys,

Hoping you can help.
I am after a newish car and looking at crossovers. I have a budget of approx £7500.
Thing is you get more for your money I am finding with diesel cars and a lot better mpg for my long journeys but... Will this be a bad idea in the long run with the way diesel will be taxed etc.
I am after a suv crossover that achieves above 60 mpg and less than £30 tax.
Current diesels achieve this for type of car but worried about car in say 5 years.
Any advice?

Thank you

Annual mileage?

Consider that for £7500 you'll be in early DPF territory, and the cost of replacing/cleaning one could wipe out your fuel savings on one go.

[kieranblenk]

You'd get a decent Peugeot 2008, Renault Captur or Skoda Yeti for that amount.

[branchini1979]

Not too dramatic but possibly 12k a year.
I know if I bought pcp, I could get a diesel for 3 years and see after that what is happening with diesel and maybe replace with petrol. For the money, not found too many petrol crossovers that do great mpg economy

[KhabibSmesh]

12k buy petrol. Do the maths, it might cost £100 more a year in tax, £300 more a year in petrol

Over 5 years you're talking £2k, but no DPF EGR issues

If really necessary then just spend £5.5k on a petrol

[Mo28]

For that budget you may be able to get a Toyota Yaris hybrid

[Jag_NE]

KhabibSmesh said:

12k buy petrol. Do the maths, it might cost £100 more a year in tax, £300 more a year in petrol

Over 5 years you're talking £2k, but no DPF EGR issues

If really necessary then just spend £5.5k on a petrol

I’d like to see the maths that says statistically he is likely to incur 2k or more worth of dpf issues.

OP: the only issue I’d flag with diesel is that ideally you want a euro6 if you want to stay clear of ulez issues in the mid to long term. At your budget that might be a bit of a squeeze.

[ZX10R NIN]

12k is right on the borderline so you'll have to workout where you'll be spending the majority of your miles? Town or A road/motorway?

If the answer is town then I'd say get a petrol, if it's the later then a diesel will be fine but make sure it's a 2015 onwards Euro6 model & you'll be fine.

You'll find your options are limited:

Ecosport

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

3008

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

Jeep

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

Skoda Yeti

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

Dacia Laureate

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

Suzuki SX4-S

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

[Pistonheader101]

not sure why everyone keeps mentioning DPF issues. more likely to blow a turbo....

[kieranblenk]

The best value small SUV is probably the Nissan Juke but check it's big enough inside for you as they are quite cramped, you'd get a lower mileage example than the models I recommended earlier.

[branchini1979]

Thanks for your posts, but still trying to get my head round the diesel rules.

Have found a car that sounds very good for economy and has no tax and is a nice little crossover and that is the Citroen C4 Cactus.
It is the BlueHDi diesel and is very reasonably priced.
It is a 15 Reg and i believe i think it just falls in the Euro 6 emissions category, so should be fine there.
I think it will not be too expensive in terms of any diesel taxes now, but i am not sure what is happening in say 5 years time in terms of diesel cars.

Would this be a good purchase?

[GreatGranny]

IMO diesels will still be in demand in 5 years just because they have a cost advantage over petrols.

Yes petrols are evolving quickly and that advantage will decrease but most punters don't know or care about the DPF etc...

They just look at the bottom line figures, eg. £30 tax vs £190, 55mpg vs 35mpg...

Also the new better petrols will take time to infiltrate into the secondhand market especially the £3-7k range.

[ZX10R NIN]

branchini1979 said:

Thanks for your posts, but still trying to get my head round the diesel rules.

Have found a car that sounds very good for economy and has no tax and is a nice little crossover and that is the Citroen C4 Cactus.
It is the BlueHDi diesel and is very reasonably priced.
It is a 15 Reg and i believe i think it just falls in the Euro 6 emissions category, so should be fine there.
I think it will not be too expensive in terms of any diesel taxes now, but i am not sure what is happening in say 5 years time in terms of diesel cars.

Would this be a good purchase?

It depends on where you do the bulk of your mileage is done town or A road/motorway once you work that out then that will dictate which way you go in terms of which fuel to go for.

[KhabibSmesh]

65 plate is when majority became Euro 6. 15 plate depends on when it rolled off the line I believe.

[kurokawa]

Not sure why are DPF and turbo keep coming up in diesel thread
I do roughly the same amount of travel as you OP
I have a diesel give me average 50mpg and a petrol for around 35mpg
Assuming the fuel price increase steadily for both type of fuel. I would be pay more than £500 a year just for fuel if I use the petrol daily.
My previous car is a Volvo D2, I have no issue with turbo or DPF, it reach 160k mile when I sold

My friend who run a E91 318d he is reaching 210k mile, he got a dpf issue around 120k but he use it as a cab, lot of city driving. Hence it is more what type of traffic more than how many mile you go

Only concern for a diesel would be meeting Euro 6 for ulez, but some pre 15 are still within Euro 6 standard, they might fall within you budget