Fed up of PCP - Two Cars?
Discussion
Hello gents,
I'm a long time PH reader, first time forum poster.
My Focus ST is coming to the end of it's PCP life, and I've started thinking about my next car choice(s).
If I stay PCP my preference is Audi S3, or BMW M140i at the minute,
However, the thought of a sporty car I actually own has really interested me lately, I've always loved the WRX STI Hatchbacks. This will probably mean I need a second car as a daily driver.
For those of you with a weekend toy and a seperate daily driver, I hope you can give me some Pros/Cons of the two car option over the jack of all trades vehicle.
I love the idea of customising and working on a car that I can call my own, but I don't own a workshop so a lot of work requiring specific access tools will need to be done professionally.
Mike
I'm a long time PH reader, first time forum poster.
My Focus ST is coming to the end of it's PCP life, and I've started thinking about my next car choice(s).
If I stay PCP my preference is Audi S3, or BMW M140i at the minute,
However, the thought of a sporty car I actually own has really interested me lately, I've always loved the WRX STI Hatchbacks. This will probably mean I need a second car as a daily driver.
For those of you with a weekend toy and a seperate daily driver, I hope you can give me some Pros/Cons of the two car option over the jack of all trades vehicle.
I love the idea of customising and working on a car that I can call my own, but I don't own a workshop so a lot of work requiring specific access tools will need to be done professionally.
Mike
if you have space for the second one I totally recommend it. I have (nearly) always ran multiple cars/bikes and sometimes the odd van.
I really believe in the right tool for the right job.
The only downsides are the double tax, double MOTs and additional insurance. Although certain places do multicar now which limits the pain.
I suspect if you buy two that you own, rather than PCP the fact you're not being interest on the PCP will cover the double utility bills.
I have quite opposite vehicles at the minute - I just need one more and I'm sorted for awhile!
I really believe in the right tool for the right job.
The only downsides are the double tax, double MOTs and additional insurance. Although certain places do multicar now which limits the pain.
I suspect if you buy two that you own, rather than PCP the fact you're not being interest on the PCP will cover the double utility bills.
I have quite opposite vehicles at the minute - I just need one more and I'm sorted for awhile!
Dave. said:
Why can't you daily an Impreza?
Not that I'm saying you shouldn't get two cars, or three cars, or ... You get the jist!
I've assumed it's probably not adequate as a daily driver! I could well be wrong, it has been known to happen.Not that I'm saying you shouldn't get two cars, or three cars, or ... You get the jist!
I do like the right tool for the right job statement, I think the best course of action for me would buy what I want and ditch the PCP, a second car can always be bought on the cheap if needed!
Thanks
mgman1520 said:
Dave. said:
Why can't you daily an Impreza?
Not that I'm saying you shouldn't get two cars, or three cars, or ... You get the jist!
I've assumed it's probably not adequate as a daily driver! I could well be wrong, it has been known to happen.Not that I'm saying you shouldn't get two cars, or three cars, or ... You get the jist!
I do like the right tool for the right job statement, I think the best course of action for me would buy what I want and ditch the PCP, a second car can always be bought on the cheap if needed!
Thanks
The WRX will be fine to daily it may well be a bit heavier on fuel than a more modern car but that's the only reason not to daily it, obviously there are the 2.5 has a few issues with it's bottom end but you can find ones that have been rebuilt.
By buying one car you can get the best example, I went the two car route but I bought the weekend car first & ran it until I could afford a sensible/smart daily.
By buying one car you can get the best example, I went the two car route but I bought the weekend car first & ran it until I could afford a sensible/smart daily.
We have three cars.
Nissan Leaf for the countless 20 mile round trip in and out of town and the 34 mile round trips to the place I work. Absolutely perfect for the job, fuel savings mean it's effectively free.
MR2 Roadster for when the sun shines and for weekends away.
Toyota Aygo for all other duties. In truth it's a little small but I couldn't get rid of it as we've owned it for years, never goes wrong, costs nothing to run. Would replace with a Corolla or maybe an Avensis if I had to.
Each of the above gets a service every year, totalling about £400.00 and then it's another £150.00 for MOT's. There are never any repair bills and the total VED is £250.00
Depreciation on the AYGO is near zero as it's only worth £1500 tops. Depreciation on the MR2 is also zero (in fact I think values have gone up a little) and whilst the Leaf continues to devalue, that really is offset by near zero costs to fuel and run.
Insurance is £320.00/year fully comp on a multi-car policy from Aviva.
Reckon we're running three cars for less than £100/month (plus fuel costs on the Aygo and MR2, so maybe another £60 tops).
Nissan Leaf for the countless 20 mile round trip in and out of town and the 34 mile round trips to the place I work. Absolutely perfect for the job, fuel savings mean it's effectively free.
MR2 Roadster for when the sun shines and for weekends away.
Toyota Aygo for all other duties. In truth it's a little small but I couldn't get rid of it as we've owned it for years, never goes wrong, costs nothing to run. Would replace with a Corolla or maybe an Avensis if I had to.
Each of the above gets a service every year, totalling about £400.00 and then it's another £150.00 for MOT's. There are never any repair bills and the total VED is £250.00
Depreciation on the AYGO is near zero as it's only worth £1500 tops. Depreciation on the MR2 is also zero (in fact I think values have gone up a little) and whilst the Leaf continues to devalue, that really is offset by near zero costs to fuel and run.
Insurance is £320.00/year fully comp on a multi-car policy from Aviva.
Reckon we're running three cars for less than £100/month (plus fuel costs on the Aygo and MR2, so maybe another £60 tops).
A 5 door hatchback as a weekend car! What exactly do you run along side that that would be considered any more "daily" than another 5 door hatchback?
Why not run a Subaru as your daily and get an MX5 as your weekend car. You can do all sorts of spannering on it with regard to refreshing suspension, interior etc and even look at collecting parts and doing a turbo or supercharger conversion over winter if you can find a garage to use.
Learning to work on cars is a good thing but you're limited without a garage as you often find rain stops play, it would be handy to work on a part at a bench and when you are starting out you often find you don't have all the tools you need so can spend a week with a part half dismantled while you wait on a specific tool turning up. It helps to have a large to keep the dismantled bits dry in.
Why not run a Subaru as your daily and get an MX5 as your weekend car. You can do all sorts of spannering on it with regard to refreshing suspension, interior etc and even look at collecting parts and doing a turbo or supercharger conversion over winter if you can find a garage to use.
Learning to work on cars is a good thing but you're limited without a garage as you often find rain stops play, it would be handy to work on a part at a bench and when you are starting out you often find you don't have all the tools you need so can spend a week with a part half dismantled while you wait on a specific tool turning up. It helps to have a large to keep the dismantled bits dry in.
mgman1520 said:
For those of you with a weekend toy and a seperate daily driver, I hope you can give me some Pros/Cons of the two car option over the jack of all trades vehicle.
I love the idea of customising and working on a car that I can call my own, but I don't own a workshop so a lot of work requiring specific access tools will need to be done professionally.
I've run multiple cars for years..... but have de-fleeted (!) to two personal cars. One for sunny weekends and one that does everything.I love the idea of customising and working on a car that I can call my own, but I don't own a workshop so a lot of work requiring specific access tools will need to be done professionally.
The 'trick' for me was eventually finding two cars that were substantially different and the weekend car to be one that didn't cost £100k to replace a lightbulb. The FGT became too valuable and made from unobtainable parts.
The cons for me with two or more cars, were that each one sort of eclipsed another... all too similar. For example, I had a Vanquish and an XKR - too close to be honest. Now I have a Range Rover and a Morgan - chalk and cheese, and that's much more fun.
So as long as they're different, that's my advice - and yes, 2 is better than 1.
I've always preferred the 2 car way aswell, I really enjoyed it when I had my X5 4.8iS as my daily and my Cerbera as my weekender. The X5 was comfortable/practical/quick enough, and the TVR was loud/exciting/fast.
I tried the do it all car thing with my E92 M3 and I don't recommend it, it was too ordinary to use day in day out and not different enough from a standard 3 series to ever feel really special. You just got used to it, whereas with multiple cars you appreciate them much more.
All cars are compromised and expecting 1 car to do it all just isn't ever going to happen for me. Variety is the best way.
I tried the do it all car thing with my E92 M3 and I don't recommend it, it was too ordinary to use day in day out and not different enough from a standard 3 series to ever feel really special. You just got used to it, whereas with multiple cars you appreciate them much more.
All cars are compromised and expecting 1 car to do it all just isn't ever going to happen for me. Variety is the best way.
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