Astra GSI vs Integra DC5
Astra GSI vs Integra DC5
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Danny4494

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197 posts

126 months

Wednesday 22nd August 2018
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Basically I'm after a new car soon been driving a boring 320d for the past year or so while I save up, so the shortlist I narrowed it down to is DC5 or a MK4 astra GSI.

Pro's of the DC5 I can think of is it should generally be more reliable than the astra, looks better (subjective) only problem is I'm a Honda man I have had 2 DC2's and I had a 260 bhp EP3 in the past and it cost me a fortune to tune and also got tiresome having to rag the death out of it to get anywhere so I might get bored easily.

Pro's of the astra is better tuning results with FI, cheaper to service and maintain and parts are generally cheaper faster in a straight line, won't be as good handling and also not a massive fan of the dash.

Would like to hear from people that have owned both

Any suggestions also welcome

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

284 months

Wednesday 22nd August 2018
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Danny4494 said:
Pro's of the astra is better tuning results with FI, cheaper to service and maintain and parts are generally cheaper faster in a straight line, won't be as good handling and also not a massive fan of the dash.
There's also the fact that it's a giant dog turd of a vehicle. It shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence as the Honda.

DanielSan

19,996 posts

196 months

Wednesday 22nd August 2018
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If it helps, I went from a modified EP3 to a 290bhp Astra VXR and in less than 12 months swapped it for a DC5.

The torque is nice to have day to day but doesn’t get boring, the DC5 never got boring at any point. If it hadn’t blown the engine spectacularly due to a slight mis-shift it may well not have been sold even now.

aka_kerrly

12,505 posts

239 months

Wednesday 22nd August 2018
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Id have a Integra dc5 over any Astra.

Ive got a Ep3 an a few mates have Dc5s, its the lsd+closer gearing, 20hp extra and the way its delivered (better intake and exhaust manifolds from factory) and hydraulic steering that make the Integra a sharper tool!

SidewaysSi

10,742 posts

263 months

Wednesday 22nd August 2018
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Agree with the others - I wouldn't go for the Astra. What's your budget? What about a RenaultSport car?

I ran a DC2 for many years but good as it was I didn't love it as much as I wanted to. If I was in the market for that sort of car now, I would probably go Megane 260/265/275 Cup.

Turn7

25,686 posts

250 months

Wednesday 22nd August 2018
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Mr2Mike said:
Danny4494 said:
Pro's of the astra is better tuning results with FI, cheaper to service and maintain and parts are generally cheaper faster in a straight line, won't be as good handling and also not a massive fan of the dash.
There's also the fact that it's a giant dog turd of a vehicle. It shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence as the Honda.
Amen to the above, chalk and cheese....

Davie

6,201 posts

244 months

Wednesday 22nd August 2018
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I'd concede, a DC5 us a more exciting car out the box and more suited to track driving but the Mk4 Astra GSi isn't a dog turd. Far from it actually. Surprisingly good chassis, well built, stupidly cheap to run and modify and with minimal work can be a very quick car.

I ran one, started off standatd but ended up 275bhp, KW coilovers, poly bushed and set up correctly and it would easily out pace Type R's and such like on track. It also did 25k a year for two years with minimal issues.

My sister still has one, standard aside for lowered slightly... drives it every day and it's been fantastic. Very underrated cars and as usual, the Vauxhall badge snobs struggle to accept that.

Day in, day out I'd have the Astra but as a track / drivers car then I don't dispute the DC5 is the better car, more so if comparing standard examples.

Turn7

25,686 posts

250 months

Wednesday 22nd August 2018
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Davie, obvs YMMV, but EVERY Vaux Ive owned has been agrro......Cam sensors on nearly all of them failed, piss poor build quality/materials.....

They are cheap for a reason, and I will never buy another.....

syl

693 posts

104 months

Wednesday 22nd August 2018
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Given the choice between any other car and a Vauxhall, it would be the other car. They were beyond useless when my Astra, owned since new, serviced at the dealer bang on schedule, blew up it's engine a few months after the warranty expired. The engine blowing up puts me off, but the way they dealt with the problem means that I will never, ever consider one of their vehicles again.

PS - mine was a Mk IV, with a Z20LET engine.

Edited by syl on Wednesday 22 August 21:38

Davie

6,201 posts

244 months

Thursday 23rd August 2018
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But have either of you owned a Mk4 GSi Turbo or a DC5 and can offer the OP some personal opinion on either or is this just going to be another generic list all your Vauxhall tales of woe. I mean, I had a Vectra 2.0DTI and it was utter crap, terrible car that had no end of issues but then again that's not really relevant to the subject in questions unless the OP fancies one of those instead...

GregK2

1,723 posts

175 months

Thursday 23rd August 2018
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Never heard of these 2 being compared as 2 potential rivals for a what car should I buy!
Only 1 answer here.

designforlife

3,742 posts

192 months

Thursday 23rd August 2018
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This is a joke right?

An Astra doesn't deserve to be compared to a dc5 type R...yet alone be a purchase consideration.

Ahbefive

11,657 posts

201 months

Thursday 23rd August 2018
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I'd take a R26, ST, MPS, GTi or DC5 over pretty much any Vauxhaul bar the vx220 or Lotus Carlton.

The mk4 Astra is a shocker, a VXR would be much better.

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

284 months

Thursday 23rd August 2018
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To be fair, if you proritise comfort (as in soft suspension and low engine noise) over almost everything else you might prefer the Astra. If you like a car that doesn't handle like a boat, then it's likely not a good choice.

designforlife

3,742 posts

192 months

Thursday 23rd August 2018
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I owned a mk4 Astra...first and last Vauxhall I'll ever own.

Dead feeling electric PAS, boaty handling, and cheap nasty GM spec interior.

Was fine as a first car at 20 years old, but I wouldn't be seen dead in one as a well informed petrolhead, even the GSi

Jonny_gti

291 posts

109 months

Thursday 23rd August 2018
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Integra DC5 easy choice and I'm a gsi fan but they arent comparable.

Danny4494

Original Poster:

197 posts

126 months

Thursday 23rd August 2018
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It's a landslide laugh I know it's a very strange comparison I'm just verging more on the side of boost over NA feel like I have done the Honda thing now owned pretty much every type r minus the FK and DC5 and don't get me wrong they have all been fun if I had to have one back would be a hard decision between the ATR or EK9 , on paper the GSI doesn't look like a bad shout obviously not, another left wing choice for me is a JRSC EP3 my 260 bhp NA one bored me to be honest would the boost make up for that ?

Jonny_gti

291 posts

109 months

Thursday 23rd August 2018
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Danny4494 said:
It's a landslide laugh I know it's a very strange comparison I'm just verging more on the side of boost over NA feel like I have done the Honda thing now owned pretty much every type r minus the FK and DC5 and don't get me wrong they have all been fun if I had to have one back would be a hard decision between the ATR or EK9 , on paper the GSI doesn't look like a bad shout obviously not, another left wing choice for me is a JRSC EP3 my 260 bhp NA one bored me to be honest would the boost make up for that ?
I owned a 310hp Jrsc EP3 defo wont get bored anytime soon in that but if your mind is already kind of set on the GSI get one now while you can still find one that isn't a dog may be looking for a while tho but they are out there.

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

284 months

Thursday 23rd August 2018
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For the price of a DC5 I'd have thought you could pick up a very tidy VXR if you like Vauxhalls?

Edited by Mr2Mike on Thursday 23 August 18:54

Ahbefive

11,657 posts

201 months

Thursday 23rd August 2018
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Have you considered other cars at all?