Buying cheap cars. What to check?
Buying cheap cars. What to check?
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Steve vRS

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5,268 posts

261 months

Monday 27th August 2018
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My girlfriend needs a new car with a budget up to £1000. Luckily she wants small, simple but reliable.

We will be looking at the lower end of the used dealer market and I’m realistic enough to know that these cars will have issues. But what are the obvious things to look for and walk away from?

I’ve got a list that includes a decent amount of MOT with a review of the advisories, even tyre wear, a V5, recent belt changes and no excessive rust.

Am I correct in thinking that Nissan Micra, Toyota Yaris and Korean are safe bets and the Fiestas may be less reliable but cheap to fix? I’ll be avoiding French, Italian, Vauxhall and Volkswagen.

Thanks in advance!

henrycrun

2,473 posts

260 months

Monday 27th August 2018
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Everything

Steve vRS

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5,268 posts

261 months

Monday 27th August 2018
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henrycrun said:
Everything
Thanks. I’ll make sure to take a four post lift and my socket set with me biggrin

Francis85

176 posts

88 months

Monday 27th August 2018
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I would go for little Japaneses and Kas & Fiestas, whichever looks in a better shape.

JakeT

5,897 posts

140 months

Monday 27th August 2018
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- Don't buy a specific model, or spec. An undesirable car is cheap for a reason.
- Buy privately. Dealers are clearly looking to make a profit, a private seller often has 0 overheads and is looking to get rid of the car (make sure they aren't trying to sell you a pup though).
- Check MOT history online and perform a HPI check. Even if it's cheap, you can still be bitten.
- If you find a car you like, research common faults before going to view.
- A good sign is a set of matching tyres. Small, budget hatchbacks often have budget tyres, so as long as they match.
- Check the service history is up to date. If not, pay close attention to the fluids, their levels and conditions.

Finally...

Remember, its' a cheap car. If there's little things you can fix yourself, such as faded or swirled paint, don't sweat it. A spot of tinkering is usually needed, and always bonds (wo)man and machine.

On a personal note, I always had good luck with a Fiesta. The 1.25/1.4/1.6 Zetec (Sigma) engines are excellent. Need a timing belt ever 100k/10yrs, but that's it. Furthermore, any mechanic can fix a Ford. The Fiesta is also plentiful on the used market.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

146 months

Monday 27th August 2018
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Insist on something "desirable" (to the majority), it's going to be worse nick for the money than something "undesirable". So a grand's-worth of Polo is going to be an utter stter compared to a grand's-worth of C3.

Go into it with an open mind, accept that at that money anything and everything is liable to be one hiccup from scrap, and buy on condition alone.

And do NOT buy from a dealer. You're buying a £500 car for a grand with no realistic comeback. Buy privately.

Steve vRS

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261 months

Monday 27th August 2018
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I know you’d get more for your money buying private but we don’t have the time to go around lots of locations so a low end trader is the marketplace.

Luckily she is not a car person so will be happy with a Chevrolet or Kia
type car.

Hell, she thinks my Skoda is a limo!

Edible Roadkill

2,127 posts

197 months

Monday 27th August 2018
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Just check for the best that gumtree throws up for your money. Keep away from anything with patchy service record or modifications aftermarket wheels etc - just means some young punk had inherited it off his mum and Yahoo!'d it around the town in 2nd gear for the last 20k miles.

There's always a well kept fiesta, micra, Suzuki swift to be had.

I'd also look to buy private at that sort of money, more honest buying from the man on the street, you can ask some questions and see if you get the right type of reply.

Pericoloso

44,044 posts

183 months

Monday 27th August 2018
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You have a stereotype obsession rejecting French ,Italian,Vauxhall and VW.


Pothole

34,367 posts

302 months

Monday 27th August 2018
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Honda Jazz from local paper classifieds,
Claer MOT history and service history.
Does it have unmatched LingLong ditchfinders?

Steve vRS

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5,268 posts

261 months

Monday 27th August 2018
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Pericoloso said:
You have a stereotype obsession rejecting French ,Italian,Vauxhall and VW.
I also dislike Audi’s and Range Rover Sports. That should be a PH stereotype full house!

andymc

7,555 posts

227 months

Monday 27th August 2018
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toyota corolla

Josho

748 posts

117 months

Monday 27th August 2018
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Honestly a MK4 1.9 TDI Golf, a K11 Micra, a Yaris or a Honda Civic/Jazz would be my choice.

The Micras rust.
The Yaris, Hondas and Golfs do wear suspension more.

At a grand any of the above would be my first choice.

Turn7

25,084 posts

241 months

Monday 27th August 2018
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Surely a Yaris is the answer here ?

Steve vRS

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Monday 27th August 2018
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Turn7 said:
Surely a Yaris is the answer here ?
It is on my shortlist along with a Micra or Hyundai/ Kia. Although the fix ability of a Fiesta is a plus point. I’ve ruled out a Ka on rust and headlight replacement reasons!

ToothbrushMan

1,772 posts

145 months

Monday 27th August 2018
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word of warning if you go on Gumtree. look for ads that have had a modicum of effort put into them with decent grammar and complete sentences.

avoid the ads that might just read "car, runs" believe me I have seen some like that.

there as many very nice looked after cheap cars and for a grand you should do very well if you look in the right places.


bearman68

4,901 posts

152 months

Monday 27th August 2018
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Yaris would be the answer for me as well. Lovely little engine, and as reliable as the seasons. I've got a real soft spot for these. and 35 mins to service including plugs and cabin filter.
The 1.3 is surprisingly peppy as well.
I'd not bother with the golf (rust), or the Micra (K12 was a dog,and the K11 rusts and has no crash protection), Chevy is very poor from an engineering perspective. No real comment on the Swift, or the Korean stuff really.
I tend to buy on gut feel most of the time. But then, I've bought the odd pup or 2 as well.

Oh, and it goes without saying that petrol is generally the way to go.

The French stuff isn't terrible mind, but diesel clio's are to be avoided at that price point. (C2 / C3 might not be a bad bet)

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

146 months

Monday 27th August 2018
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bearman68 said:
Oh, and it goes without saying that petrol is generally the way to go.

The French stuff isn't terrible mind, but diesel clio's are to be avoided at that price point. (C2 / C3 might not be a bad bet)
And PSA/Ford 1.6HDi/TDCi...? Definitely avoid.

Josho

748 posts

117 months

Monday 27th August 2018
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bearman68 said:
Yaris would be the answer for me as well. Lovely little engine, and as reliable as the seasons. I've got a real soft spot for these. and 35 mins to service including plugs and cabin filter.
The 1.3 is surprisingly peppy as well.
I'd not bother with the golf (rust), or the Micra (K12 was a dog,and the K11 rusts and has no crash protection), Chevy is very poor from an engineering perspective. No real comment on the Swift, or the Korean stuff really.
I tend to buy on gut feel most of the time. But then, I've bought the odd pup or 2 as well.

Oh, and it goes without saying that petrol is generally the way to go.

The French stuff isn't terrible mind, but diesel clio's are to be avoided at that price point. (C2 / C3 might not be a bad bet)
MK4 Golfs don't rust.

The 1.6 HDIs are perfect engines if maintained properly (oil changes every 8k) but they are never maintained enough so yes definitely definitely avoid.

rix

2,891 posts

210 months

Monday 27th August 2018
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Check mot history online, check all warning lights come on and go off, check oil and fluids are ok at the correct levels etc. Check tyres (they can be 40% of the car cost at that budget!) Check for rust, check for no knocks/bangs at different speeds, over speed bumps, check clutch (pull hard from low revs in high gear), check for excessive smoke. Check any electric widgets work. Do not be fussy on spec/car, ignore miles on clock and buy in condition! Long previous ownership is generally encourging, ask how long dealer has had it, ask whether hpi clear, ask if any known repairs whilst in their possession. Go with head not heart!