Fake service stamp. Should I do anything about it?
Fake service stamp. Should I do anything about it?
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nojoeing

Original Poster:

17 posts

87 months

Saturday 6th October 2018
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Hello,

I bought a Honda Civic 1.8 MK8 a few weeks ago. It has been running perfectly, however, A/C needs vacuum check and regas.

The car came with FSH and I was checking it last night and everything checks out with the MOT etc. All looks good until 2016 when the car is sold and the new owner has it for two years. There is only one stamp for 2018 and a gap for 2017. I checked the mileage on the 2018 one and it turns out that it is impossible the mileage is correct as the MOT done a few months ago has the car with 300 miles over the one stated in the stamp. Whoever faked the stamp did a sloppy job. Further on I discovered that there were no garages on the street that is on the stamp so it's a fake stamp.

This doesn't particularly worry me as I, per PH advice, bought the car on condition, not miles/service history and everything is fine. This was from a small dealer and I am wondering what should I do?

I want to keep the car and most of the advice online is about how you can reject a car and how to take legal action etc. so I am not sure what to do if anything?

The only other dealer issue is that he told me I will get two keys but he didn't find the second one and has not paid for a new one yet. The car was a very good deal so I am not sure if I should keep chasing him for the key.

Thanks.

Alucidnation

16,810 posts

190 months

Saturday 6th October 2018
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nojoeing said:
This doesn't particularly worry me as I, per PH advice...
That's your first mistake.

What did the dealer say when you spoke to them about it?

DickyC

55,912 posts

218 months

Saturday 6th October 2018
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The two keys promise is indicative of the dealer's methods. If you keep on at him he may do something. If you don't, he won't. He's banking on most people giving up. You said you might give up. He knows his customers.

nojoeing

Original Poster:

17 posts

87 months

Sunday 7th October 2018
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Alucidnation said:
nojoeing said:
This doesn't particularly worry me as I, per PH advice...
That's your first mistake.

What did the dealer say when you spoke to them about it?
What is the mistake? I bought a car on condition rather than blindly trusting the history.

I haven’t told him yet.

cj2013

1,409 posts

146 months

Sunday 7th October 2018
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nojoeing said:
The only other dealer issue is that he told me I will get two keys but he didn't find the second one and has not paid for a new one yet. The car was a very good deal so I am not sure if I should keep chasing him for the key.
I had this quite a few years ago with a small dealer/trader in the south west. He promised he'd ordered a new key, and it was for a car where keys aren't coded, but are ordered in sequence from Germany. I eventually gave up (amongst other issues) and refreshing found that, upon enquiring myself, a new spare was less than £40 from the main dealer, ordered in.

When it arrived, it was sequence #3, which meant that no one had ordered a replacement spare before.

aaron_2000

5,407 posts

103 months

Sunday 7th October 2018
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You can keep chasing him for a key, but the odds are you'll never get one. Sounds like you bought from a bit of a dodgy dealer, not quite a MotorHub, but more of a back street trader kind of place. If the car is up to your standard condition wise, which it sounds like it is, then I'd just go get a new key made (if it's worth the trouble to you) and accept that it has a discrepancy in the service book. I nearly bought a low mileage 745i with FSH on Irish plates a few weeks ago, all checked out, MOT history was only 4 years strong, I assumed due to it coming fro Ireland. Turns out it was sent to Ireland on 192k, clocked and given a fake service history, then sent back here with 52k and a new reg.

rallycross

13,668 posts

257 months

Sunday 7th October 2018
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Did you do an HPI check before you bought it?

Funk

27,202 posts

229 months

Monday 8th October 2018
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cj2013 said:
nojoeing said:
The only other dealer issue is that he told me I will get two keys but he didn't find the second one and has not paid for a new one yet. The car was a very good deal so I am not sure if I should keep chasing him for the key.
I had this quite a few years ago with a small dealer/trader in the south west. He promised he'd ordered a new key, and it was for a car where keys aren't coded, but are ordered in sequence from Germany. I eventually gave up (amongst other issues) and refreshing found that, upon enquiring myself, a new spare was less than £40 from the main dealer, ordered in.

When it arrived, it was sequence #3, which meant that no one had ordered a replacement spare before.
I had this when I bought my 330Ci. I kept on at the dealer who eventually coughed up for the second key. It was a little annoying to be told there were two when it's clearly commonplace to lie and hope the customer gives up chasing for it...

nojoeing

Original Poster:

17 posts

87 months

Tuesday 9th October 2018
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cj2013 said:
I had this quite a few years ago with a small dealer/trader in the south west. He promised he'd ordered a new key, and it was for a car where keys aren't coded, but are ordered in sequence from Germany. I eventually gave up (amongst other issues) and refreshing found that, upon enquiring myself, a new spare was less than £40 from the main dealer, ordered in.

When it arrived, it was sequence #3, which meant that no one had ordered a replacement spare before.
I have already found a replacement key for £6 with cutting it ads up to £10. Programming seems very easy. For £10 I will give it a go, however, I will keep chasing the dealer for the original.

rallycross said:
Did you do an HPI check before you bought it?
A guy here did one and he told me it's all clear.