Non-diesel family SUV??
Discussion
Hi,
I'm looking to replace my current M135i with something a bit larger and practical for the kids and dogs.
An SUV makes a lot of sense for us, even in the city. However, I need something either euro 6 or higher (for a diesel) in emissions standards due to the upcoming ultra low emissions zones. Or ideally something petrol driven to avoid all of this nonsense.
However, unfortunately it seems every option I try to explore in this particular market is exclusively diesel powered, the majority of which are only euro 5. This is a car I plan on keeping so needs to be fairly future-proof.
I'm really struggling for a mid size premium SUV, something akin to the size of an X3/XC60/Q5/Tiguan etc without the dreaded diesel. Can anyone please suggest any models I may have overlooked or any alternatives?
I also want to avoid finance, my budget is between 16-18k cash.
Cheers.
I'm looking to replace my current M135i with something a bit larger and practical for the kids and dogs.
An SUV makes a lot of sense for us, even in the city. However, I need something either euro 6 or higher (for a diesel) in emissions standards due to the upcoming ultra low emissions zones. Or ideally something petrol driven to avoid all of this nonsense.
However, unfortunately it seems every option I try to explore in this particular market is exclusively diesel powered, the majority of which are only euro 5. This is a car I plan on keeping so needs to be fairly future-proof.
I'm really struggling for a mid size premium SUV, something akin to the size of an X3/XC60/Q5/Tiguan etc without the dreaded diesel. Can anyone please suggest any models I may have overlooked or any alternatives?
I also want to avoid finance, my budget is between 16-18k cash.
Cheers.
These hybrids / PHEVs....
How do they fair on the long term reliability side of things. I wouldn't be put off as a new purchase, but having just searched the Lexus approved used website for RXs they're all 6-7 years old.
It's a shame really. I'm not totally against a diesel. But my hand has rather been forced by the government!
Although saying that, I'm more keen on a premium brand. I'd imagine that what residuals are left will be much higher on a premium brand rather than the likes of a RAV 4 or Seat ATECA.
How do they fair on the long term reliability side of things. I wouldn't be put off as a new purchase, but having just searched the Lexus approved used website for RXs they're all 6-7 years old.
It's a shame really. I'm not totally against a diesel. But my hand has rather been forced by the government!
Although saying that, I'm more keen on a premium brand. I'd imagine that what residuals are left will be much higher on a premium brand rather than the likes of a RAV 4 or Seat ATECA.
Skoda Kodiaq 2.0 TSI 190PS, in SportLine trim (left, sport seats, more colour coding), or Scout trim (right, rough road package and aluminium look bumper inserts)...
Can be had in either 5 or 7 seat configurations, cheaper than a Tiguan Allspace and better looking than the SEAT Tarraco.
Long lead-times at the minute though, thanks to VAG being behind on their WLTP emissions testing...
They've just launched a vRS, bi-turbo, 245bhp, but it's diesel...
Sorry, just seen your budget.
Try the Skoda Karoq / SEAT Ateca (smaller, but cheaper)...
Can be had in either 5 or 7 seat configurations, cheaper than a Tiguan Allspace and better looking than the SEAT Tarraco.
Long lead-times at the minute though, thanks to VAG being behind on their WLTP emissions testing...
They've just launched a vRS, bi-turbo, 245bhp, but it's diesel...
Sorry, just seen your budget.
Try the Skoda Karoq / SEAT Ateca (smaller, but cheaper)...
Edited by silver1011 on Sunday 7th October 21:11
I'd love an x3 40d. But I don't think my budget will stretch that far!
Been looking at the Lexus a lot. Like the car, seems to have a lot of positive things said about it in pretty much every review. My spidey senses are telling me to be wary of an ageing hybrid with a CVT though. Seems like a lot of expensive electricals and unpopular mechanicals to go wrong, particularly as I'd probably have to use a main dealer repair as there don't seem to be many hybrid specialist garages.
With regards to the premium aspect. I'm not a brand snob, I'm open to anything that is reliable and drives well regardless of manufacturer. I was just going on my experience of depreciation of the more premium cars being much less of a hit. I've had a few French cars prior to the M135i and the depreciation when it was time to part ways made me wince.
Although, that being said, SUVs seem to hold their value better. I also plan to hold onto it for a while, which makes it less important.
Been looking at the Lexus a lot. Like the car, seems to have a lot of positive things said about it in pretty much every review. My spidey senses are telling me to be wary of an ageing hybrid with a CVT though. Seems like a lot of expensive electricals and unpopular mechanicals to go wrong, particularly as I'd probably have to use a main dealer repair as there don't seem to be many hybrid specialist garages.
With regards to the premium aspect. I'm not a brand snob, I'm open to anything that is reliable and drives well regardless of manufacturer. I was just going on my experience of depreciation of the more premium cars being much less of a hit. I've had a few French cars prior to the M135i and the depreciation when it was time to part ways made me wince.
Although, that being said, SUVs seem to hold their value better. I also plan to hold onto it for a while, which makes it less important.
Doodles19 said:
Hi,
I'm looking to replace my current M135i with something a bit larger and practical for the kids and dogs.
An SUV makes a lot of sense for us, even in the city. However, I need something either euro 6 or higher (for a diesel) in emissions standards due to the upcoming ultra low emissions zones. Or ideally something petrol driven to avoid all of this nonsense.
However, unfortunately it seems every option I try to explore in this particular market is exclusively diesel powered, the majority of which are only euro 5. This is a car I plan on keeping so needs to be fairly future-proof.
I'm really struggling for a mid size premium SUV, something akin to the size of an X3/XC60/Q5/Tiguan etc without the dreaded diesel. Can anyone please suggest any models I may have overlooked or any alternatives?
I also want to avoid finance, my budget is between 16-18k cash.
Cheers.
They might be tricky to find second hand but they will exist - bear in mind that the US loves SUVs and they are all petrol over there.I'm looking to replace my current M135i with something a bit larger and practical for the kids and dogs.
An SUV makes a lot of sense for us, even in the city. However, I need something either euro 6 or higher (for a diesel) in emissions standards due to the upcoming ultra low emissions zones. Or ideally something petrol driven to avoid all of this nonsense.
However, unfortunately it seems every option I try to explore in this particular market is exclusively diesel powered, the majority of which are only euro 5. This is a car I plan on keeping so needs to be fairly future-proof.
I'm really struggling for a mid size premium SUV, something akin to the size of an X3/XC60/Q5/Tiguan etc without the dreaded diesel. Can anyone please suggest any models I may have overlooked or any alternatives?
I also want to avoid finance, my budget is between 16-18k cash.
Cheers.
Hub said:
Does it have to be a SUV? Apart from the ride height you don't gain anything over a decent estate, which could give you more options.
Yes. I'd want something 4wd if it were an estate anyway. I find the increased ride height and higher profile tyres reassuring. The ability to avoid potential major chassis damage should a high kerb be taken too tightly, or a large pothole be hit. I also find increased visibility from the higher driving position appealing to help avoid such things in the first place.Of course there is always the argument of... stay clear of kerbs and avoid potholes. But my partner will also be driving, she tends not to be so careful. In addition to this, unfortunately where I live, the roads are incredibly tight in places with some savage kerbs that can cause some significant damage if hit. Hence why increased durability is important.
Edit: Maybe I need to buy a lifted pickup!
Hub said:
Does it have to be a SUV? Apart from the ride height you don't gain anything over a decent estate, which could give you more options.
SUVs get 3x Isofix on the back row an estate gets 2x - hence I cannot take my 3 kids in the back of my F10 535d so S Max is the tools for family duties only. Doodles19 said:
Yes. I'd want something 4wd if it were an estate anyway. I find the increased ride height and higher profile tyres reassuring. The ability to avoid potential major chassis damage should a high kerb be taken too tightly, or a large pothole be hit. I also find increased visibility from the higher driving position appealing to help avoid such things in the first place.
Of course there is always the argument of... stay clear of kerbs and avoid potholes. But my partner will also be driving, she tends not to be so careful. In addition to this, unfortunately where I live, the roads are incredibly tight in places with some savage kerbs that can cause some significant damage if hit. Hence why increased durability is important.
Do you want 4wd or do you want high ride height and pothole/kerb crash resilience?Of course there is always the argument of... stay clear of kerbs and avoid potholes. But my partner will also be driving, she tends not to be so careful. In addition to this, unfortunately where I live, the roads are incredibly tight in places with some savage kerbs that can cause some significant damage if hit. Hence why increased durability is important.
Many SUVs have big (expensive) wheels and low profile tyres. Wheel damage is probably the most likely scenario.
I have a Mondeo estate car on (shock!) 16" (bigger shock!) steel wheels. It's fine for carting the family, camping kit, bikes etc. It even drives well and is particularly good at keeping the wheels on the ground on undulating back roads. Pseudo off road looks wouldn't make it any better.
Edited by MC Bodge on Sunday 7th October 22:32
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