Full Fat Range Rover in London - Size and Diesel
Discussion
Considering a one or two year old FFRR. I live in central London. I only really use my car at weekends either for mooching about the city or longer 100 mile+ journeys to our place in the countryside. The FFRR appeals as the state of the roads in central London are horrendous (potholes, speed bumps etc) and it’ll obviously do the longer trips very well.
My questions are (1) how’s the size of the FFRR in London and (2) would a diesel FFRR cope with that usage pattern without DPF issues?
There are so many diesel - and so few petrol - FFRR around that I assume it’s fine on both counts, but you never know if the owners are frustrated with the size of the thing or are constantly having to do 20 mins at 50mph to clear their DPF.
I don’t have reliable access to a street charger so the hybrid unfortunately not a good option. I could look at petrol, but choice on the used market narrows dramatically.
My questions are (1) how’s the size of the FFRR in London and (2) would a diesel FFRR cope with that usage pattern without DPF issues?
There are so many diesel - and so few petrol - FFRR around that I assume it’s fine on both counts, but you never know if the owners are frustrated with the size of the thing or are constantly having to do 20 mins at 50mph to clear their DPF.
I don’t have reliable access to a street charger so the hybrid unfortunately not a good option. I could look at petrol, but choice on the used market narrows dramatically.
cc7 said:
Considering a one or two year old FFRR. I live in central London. I only really use my car at weekends either for mooching about the city or longer 100 mile+ journeys to our place in the countryside. The FFRR appeals as the state of the roads in central London are horrendous (potholes, speed bumps etc) and it’ll obviously do the longer trips very well.
My questions are (1) how’s the size of the FFRR in London and (2) would a diesel FFRR cope with that usage pattern without DPF issues?
There are so many diesel - and so few petrol - FFRR around that I assume it’s fine on both counts, but you never know if the owners are frustrated with the size of the thing or are constantly having to do 20 mins at 50mph to clear their DPF.
I don’t have reliable access to a street charger so the hybrid unfortunately not a good option. I could look at petrol, but choice on the used market narrows dramatically.
Don't worry about cleaning the DPF. The lump of scrap will spend more time on the back of a tow truck due to its unreliability. My questions are (1) how’s the size of the FFRR in London and (2) would a diesel FFRR cope with that usage pattern without DPF issues?
There are so many diesel - and so few petrol - FFRR around that I assume it’s fine on both counts, but you never know if the owners are frustrated with the size of the thing or are constantly having to do 20 mins at 50mph to clear their DPF.
I don’t have reliable access to a street charger so the hybrid unfortunately not a good option. I could look at petrol, but choice on the used market narrows dramatically.
ZX10R NIN said:
Workout how often you do these longer runs in a month if it's every other weekend then you should be fine, as a sidebar get the 4.4d the 3.0 is okay but really not worth looking at.
Why is the 3.0 not worth looking at? it does about 8mpg more and the performance is very similar. admittedly my experience of both is an RRS rather than a FFRR but i honestly couldn't feel any benefit of the v8, though maybe it benefits the FFRR with it being a bit heavier?I say that because overall the difference is so small economy wise it's 4-6mpg dependent on useage but you have to work the 3.0d harder as it tries hauling the best part of 2+ tons around, in my experience the 4.4 just has more go so you're not having to spend as much time on the throttle.
Thanks. Surprised it would need to be as often as once every other weekend. We probably wouldn't hit that on average and there would certainly be a month in the year we didn't leave London so it'd have 3 or 4 weekends of slow speed and stop start running on the bounce.
How do all the other FFRRs cope? Judging by the used market, well over 90% are diesel and a good chunk of those must spend the majority of their time in the city.
Sadly the hybrid won't work for us. Like many in this city we're in a terraced house with no off-street parking so there's no reliable place to charge it. So, the battery would be flat more often than not and then you're in a 4 cylinder with a few extra hundred kilos.
Maybe this is an easy way to justify the 5.0 supercharged?
How do all the other FFRRs cope? Judging by the used market, well over 90% are diesel and a good chunk of those must spend the majority of their time in the city.
Sadly the hybrid won't work for us. Like many in this city we're in a terraced house with no off-street parking so there's no reliable place to charge it. So, the battery would be flat more often than not and then you're in a 4 cylinder with a few extra hundred kilos.
Maybe this is an easy way to justify the 5.0 supercharged?
Brooking10 said:
Which he can’t plug in anywhere .......
Put it on a supercharger (lots in London) and he'd be set for a week. Please don't get a FFRR for mooching around London. The air and traffic don't need it. I know above Tesla suggestion was abrasive but I'd seriously look at this newest generation of EVs from Kia/Hyundai if you live in a city. The range is so good now you can rapid charge it once a week and be done. 200 mile range becoming common.
Plug Life said:
Get a Tesla Model X instead of that ICEd crap.
Luxury 4x4 or crappy plastic battery car that'll be worth 5p in five years when the bits have stopped falling off and the fact he has nowhere to charge it. Not against EV at all (actually planning to order the little Honda) but Tesla's are poor in comparison to a FFRR (interior / quality wise).
Do you really need a FFRR for central London? Go for a petrol S class or 7 series, comfy on the long drives, absorb the bad roads and no diesel worries.
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