General opinion/advice - moving brand on pcp + negative eq
General opinion/advice - moving brand on pcp + negative eq
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mtm81

Original Poster:

91 posts

225 months

Friday 2nd November 2018
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Hi,
Looking for a general opinion on the current situation I have with the family car.

Currently have a car coming to the end of its pcp life. During its life we’ve gone way over the mileage so I fully expect to need to pay that difference at the end.

Had discussions with another dealer of another brand about a new car and their deal out of the box is good.

However if I px in my current motor, the offer they have given me is quite low (lower than other dealers even with higher mileage)


I now have three/four options:
1) do the deal as it sits- the new car will arrive in jan and at that time the dealer has said they will protect the negative equity value to that point (so if I’m short by £500, then that’ll still be the case in jan also) - now to me that’s not a good thing
2) I got ahead with the new car without the px as part of the deal. Come jan, I go back to the dealer and they revalue at that point and I pay any difference (bit of a gamble as to whether my existing car will have devalued less than what they currently think.
3) rather than moving brands , stick with the current brand and get a better value against the same car again
4) sell the existing car privately/WBAC type place
(If I did this now based on screen values (even if they talk me down) I still wouldn’t be as far behind as I would with the dealer offer


Option 3) is what we’ve done many times and is fine, however I do like the other car,but know from other sources, the deal on that car in terms of the finances means the dealer is all in with it and is therefore trying to do a bit of clawback with the value of my part ex (even though it’s for a significantly more expensive car!any thought anyone?

Nano2nd

3,426 posts

276 months

Saturday 3rd November 2018
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without the actual figures its difficult to offer an opinion, however i would say your option 2 isn't a gamble, i would IMO be 100% certain the offer for you car in 2-3months will be less than today.

mtm81

Original Poster:

91 posts

225 months

Saturday 3rd November 2018
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Thanks for the reply!
I think I wasn’t clear reading back what I’ve written for option 2, so I’ll give a hopefully better explanation below:

If we say at the moment with their valuation, I would have to put £500 to clear the old agreement based upon the current settlement versus their valuation.
(Current settlement -Their valuation = £500)

If however we wait till then end, they revalue and it’s dropped by let’s say £300 BUT my end settlement plus the extra mileage work out as a better deal:

(End ballon + mileage) - their valuation = £???

Is that any clearer?

I.e I know now exactly what my difference is BUT crucially I ‘could’ be overpaying to settle the old car by a few hundred..

Any thoughts?

Edible Roadkill

2,133 posts

197 months

Saturday 3rd November 2018
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How much miles over the agreement ?

What’s the cost per mile for going over?

Can’t you give it back and start over?

mtm81

Original Poster:

91 posts

225 months

Sunday 4th November 2018
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18k over - 6p per mile.
IF I give it back and start over, the excess mileage will be applied and add around £600-700 to my final ballon

anonymous-user

74 months

Sunday 4th November 2018
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1. Take out a loan.
2. Pay off the balloon, the excess mileage won’t matter as you are keeping the car.
3. Keep the car
4. Pay off the loan
5. Own the car.

Constantly renting/refinancing new ones every few years is a very expensive way to run cars.

mtm81

Original Poster:

91 posts

225 months

Sunday 4th November 2018
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Hi thanks for the reply but I have no interest in keeping the current car and pcp as a payment option works well for me as does swapping the car regularly etc.
Looking for best advice on available detailed options
Cheers!