VW caravelle. Options please
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Hi
I want a caravelle. They are expensive it seems
Options are buying 2nd hand. Originally thought £16k would get me a sub 75k example albeit a T5. However many are the 2.5 which comes with the mega tax.
Then thought I'll bump the budget and go t6 with cheaper running costs. Then there's the 2.0 bitdi with all its apparent engine issues, therefore 2.0 140 is the way to go...
Then thought I'd lease a new one like me current car.
6 + 47 @ £509 pcm 15k miles.... Ouch.
Any advice on the ideal one?
Cheers
I want a caravelle. They are expensive it seems
Options are buying 2nd hand. Originally thought £16k would get me a sub 75k example albeit a T5. However many are the 2.5 which comes with the mega tax.
Then thought I'll bump the budget and go t6 with cheaper running costs. Then there's the 2.0 bitdi with all its apparent engine issues, therefore 2.0 140 is the way to go...
Then thought I'd lease a new one like me current car.
6 + 47 @ £509 pcm 15k miles.... Ouch.
Any advice on the ideal one?
Cheers
Facelifted MB Viano, rides better, handles better and with the 3.0cdi motor it has some punch to it. The short wheelbase version is interesting. Its also cheaper then the VW.
The T 5 and T6 are horrible in crash tests (the reason why they are not sold in the US) are notoriously unreliable, agricultural suspensions and overpriced.
The T 5 and T6 are horrible in crash tests (the reason why they are not sold in the US) are notoriously unreliable, agricultural suspensions and overpriced.
Thanks I was just looking at them.
I was originally looking for a van, however I don't like the commercial feel of them, but would like the space. 5 seats is enough, therefore I looked into caravelle, with its superior interior.
Those mercs appear to do what I want, but are they as versatile? Ie only 4/5 seats with the rest free space for bikes / dogs etc.
Bet the 3.0 is a peach. Do I worry about quality and rust?
Thanks
I was originally looking for a van, however I don't like the commercial feel of them, but would like the space. 5 seats is enough, therefore I looked into caravelle, with its superior interior.
Those mercs appear to do what I want, but are they as versatile? Ie only 4/5 seats with the rest free space for bikes / dogs etc.
Bet the 3.0 is a peach. Do I worry about quality and rust?
Thanks
The facelifted version of the Viano (passanger version of the Vito with superior sound insulation and comforts) is way better then the original model. MB invested a lot in revamped rust protection ( no longer an issue on the FL models) , way better suspension, and General build quality. It is a better vehicle then the VW. I bought the medium wheelbase version and it is cavernous with 7 seats and massive boot space. Versatility is on par with other offerings.
If you only need 5 seats I would look at the short wheelbase, as its size is a lot more city and parking friendly whilst still offering great interior space.
The Transit is also better then the VW, especially the chasis.
For me it was the 3.0 V6 that sold me, it is a different league compared to the VW offering.
The VW is overpriced and bad at hiding its commercial vehicle origins. It sells because of its cult status and because its design is a great use of space, but that is where it stops.
The T6 is nothing more then a freshened up T5.
If you only need 5 seats I would look at the short wheelbase, as its size is a lot more city and parking friendly whilst still offering great interior space.
The Transit is also better then the VW, especially the chasis.
For me it was the 3.0 V6 that sold me, it is a different league compared to the VW offering.
The VW is overpriced and bad at hiding its commercial vehicle origins. It sells because of its cult status and because its design is a great use of space, but that is where it stops.
The T6 is nothing more then a freshened up T5.
I wanted a transporter /caravellle but like you came to save conclusion
In the end I went for a ford tourneo connect
It's great for young kids which I have ,decent spec for the vehicle and good value
Downside is that it's a bit slow and not too well built
In a few years time I'll get a merc van or transit for family life , as I want something a bit faster and robust
I've been in the merc vianos quite s bir and they are pretty decent with some good engines
I didn't want a converted t6 as didnt want something built by a bloke in a shed in the event of a crash
In the end I went for a ford tourneo connect
It's great for young kids which I have ,decent spec for the vehicle and good value
Downside is that it's a bit slow and not too well built
In a few years time I'll get a merc van or transit for family life , as I want something a bit faster and robust
I've been in the merc vianos quite s bir and they are pretty decent with some good engines
I didn't want a converted t6 as didnt want something built by a bloke in a shed in the event of a crash
Edited by TwistingMyMelon on Sunday 4th November 09:41
The Ford is in deed a good product.
If you like the more compact “high roof estates” as such, have a llok at the new peugeot Rifter (funky dashboard), or Citroen Berlingo with special comfort dampers.
A class higher the Peugeot Traveller ( and Citroen/Toyota siblings) also offer good value.
Basically almost anything is better then the antiquated, overpriced, unreliable VW’s.
If you like the more compact “high roof estates” as such, have a llok at the new peugeot Rifter (funky dashboard), or Citroen Berlingo with special comfort dampers.
A class higher the Peugeot Traveller ( and Citroen/Toyota siblings) also offer good value.
Basically almost anything is better then the antiquated, overpriced, unreliable VW’s.
The Ford is in deed a good product.
If you like the more compact “high roof estates” as such, have a llok at the new peugeot Rifter (funky dashboard), or Citroen Berlingo with special comfort dampers.
A class higher the Peugeot Traveller ( and Citroen/Toyota siblings) also offer good value.
Basically almost anything is better then the antiquated, overpriced, unreliable VW’s.
If you like the more compact “high roof estates” as such, have a llok at the new peugeot Rifter (funky dashboard), or Citroen Berlingo with special comfort dampers.
A class higher the Peugeot Traveller ( and Citroen/Toyota siblings) also offer good value.
Basically almost anything is better then the antiquated, overpriced, unreliable VW’s.
I would try to avoid the T5 2.0 TDI BiTDI 180.
There were issues with the original EGR that would break up internally and small particles would be ingested into the engine. VW finally sorted it with a 4th iteration of EGR. Even if this is fitted, the damage may have already done - uber-excessive oil usage.
If you're going for a T5, go for a 140BHP version!.
There were issues with the original EGR that would break up internally and small particles would be ingested into the engine. VW finally sorted it with a 4th iteration of EGR. Even if this is fitted, the damage may have already done - uber-excessive oil usage.
If you're going for a T5, go for a 140BHP version!.
I've got a '58 plate Caravelle executive. Its the 2.5l 5 cylinder engine. Now on 168k (bought at about 35k) and had it for 5 years.
Its been great. Only issues in that time have been a stone through the intercooler, and I needed a new inlet Cam. neither were silly money. Its big, comfy, tows well, and I added an aftermarket stereo that gave me DAB and applePlay.
Wish i had a rear bench, rather than the 6 captains seats, but thats it really. Kids and wife love it. Its got a few scuffs and will need a little paint soon, but we'd only replace it with another. Service next week, only issue for them to look at is the auxiliary heater (need that fixed before winter - its a big thing to heat!)
I think i've lost the least on this than any other car also, judging by what WBAC will give me for it!
Its been great. Only issues in that time have been a stone through the intercooler, and I needed a new inlet Cam. neither were silly money. Its big, comfy, tows well, and I added an aftermarket stereo that gave me DAB and applePlay.
Wish i had a rear bench, rather than the 6 captains seats, but thats it really. Kids and wife love it. Its got a few scuffs and will need a little paint soon, but we'd only replace it with another. Service next week, only issue for them to look at is the auxiliary heater (need that fixed before winter - its a big thing to heat!)
I think i've lost the least on this than any other car also, judging by what WBAC will give me for it!
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