VW FS applying excess mileage charge before end of PCP
VW FS applying excess mileage charge before end of PCP
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Piginapoke

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5,992 posts

214 months

Wednesday 28th November 2018
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Hi all. My Tiguan is 2/3 way through a PCP, and we intend to buy it at the end of the term, next year. It’s 7k miles over it’s scheduled mileage, but it’s not something we were bothered about as we plan to buy it. The car was serviced last month and I have just got an excess mileage bill for £400 (for the 7k over budget miles). This can’t be correct?!

Alucidnation

16,810 posts

199 months

Wednesday 28th November 2018
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Why isn't it correct?

Piginapoke

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5,992 posts

214 months

Wednesday 28th November 2018
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I thought excess mileage charges only apply when you hand the car back at the end of the term

Wooda80

1,743 posts

104 months

Wednesday 28th November 2018
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Never heard of that before, nor seen a PCP agreement where that would be in the terms conditions.

Definitiely worth a phone call to VWFS, it's possibly been raised in error.

Only other possible explanation that I can think of is if you have some kind of service plan / maintenance contract on the car in which case you may have had more servicing than your contract mileage allowed for.


Sheepshanks

40,949 posts

148 months

Wednesday 28th November 2018
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I'm sure I have seen this before, although I suppose it could have been on PCH.

I guess on a PCP if they insisted on the charge then they'd have to balance it by reducing the GFV - I don't see how they could change the total amount you pay.

Piginapoke

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5,992 posts

214 months

Wednesday 28th November 2018
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That’s useful, thanks. I’d be surprised if it’s a service plan charge, levied at 4.6p per mile.

rustyuk

4,721 posts

240 months

Wednesday 28th November 2018
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I went over the allowed mileage on a leased VW and the excess service charge was mental.

essayer

10,410 posts

223 months

Wednesday 28th November 2018
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Never heard of that before! Is it in the terms and conditions of the PCP?



Edited by essayer on Wednesday 28th November 22:43

Sheepshanks

40,949 posts

148 months

Wednesday 28th November 2018
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Piginapoke said:
That’s useful, thanks. I’d be surprised if it’s a service plan charge, levied at 4.6p per mile.
The service plan on PCP is usually just a couple of fixed interval services, so that shouldn't change. Unless you've opted for a full maintenance plan?

tickedon

121 posts

106 months

Wednesday 28th November 2018
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I believe it’s a reasonably new term designed to stop people abusing PCP by signing up to a low mileage, low monthly deal and then VTing...

However, they can’t charge more than the total price, so if you buy outright at the end (rather than simply hand back), they’d need to refund any interim additional mileage payments they’d charged you.

ZX10R NIN

30,534 posts

154 months

Thursday 29th November 2018
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It's a new measure being taken up by most manufacturers now as they're now enforcing the annual mileage (which is stated in all leases & PCP/H agreements) rather than the overall mileage due to people abusing the system & VT'ing early.


GreatGranny

9,519 posts

255 months

Thursday 29th November 2018
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Surely even if it's a new measure existing contracts won't be affected.

OP, as has been said, first thing to do is ring the finance company.

pavarotti1980

6,320 posts

113 months

Thursday 29th November 2018
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ZX10R NIN said:
It's a new measure being taken up by most manufacturers now as they're now enforcing the annual mileage (which is stated in all leases & PCP/H agreements) rather than the overall mileage due to people abusing the system & VT'ing early.

Would the manufacturer therefore refund the excess mileage charge if at the end of the term the vehicle was within the mileage limits?

Just wondering, not affected by the scenario

ZX10R NIN

30,534 posts

154 months

Thursday 29th November 2018
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Yes they would as you've not exceeded your overall mileage therefore not affected you GFV.

essayer

10,410 posts

223 months

Thursday 29th November 2018
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Isnt this change a tacit admission that post-VT charges are indeed unenforceable?

CrgT16

2,523 posts

137 months

Thursday 29th November 2018
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In my contract it clearly states that if VT’ing the mileage allowance will be calculated on a pro data basis which seems fair to me.

Terminator X

20,500 posts

233 months

Thursday 29th November 2018
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Don't pay it. Not an issue to the "owner" as the contract presumably calls for you to pay X at the end of the agreement and/or hand it back with any excess mileage paid up. If the car is paid for in full at agreement end then excess mileage is relevant.

TX.

Piginapoke

Original Poster:

5,992 posts

214 months

Thursday 29th November 2018
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Having reviewed the paperwork, the change relates to the fixed price servicing plan, not the PCP. It still seems steep at 5p a mile, why they can't just increase our service plan contributions I don't know.

It's my last time with VWFS, never again.

jamei303

3,084 posts

185 months

Thursday 29th November 2018
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Presumably you were notified of such charges beforehand?

Sheepshanks

40,949 posts

148 months

Thursday 29th November 2018
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Piginapoke said:
Having reviewed the paperwork, the change relates to the fixed price servicing plan, not the PCP. It still seems steep at 5p a mile, why they can't just increase our service plan contributions I don't know.
So is it a full maintenance plan, rather than a service plan?

Doesn't make sense if it's "fixed price servicing" as the plan is for a fixed number of services (used to be 3 but now it's 2). If you needed another service you'd just have to pay for it.

Full maintenance on a PCP Golf doesn't make sense either, unless you're doing loads of miles.