What warm/hot hatch for £3k?
Discussion
After much deliberation trying to decide what kind of car I want/need next I've all but decided that something small, warm and cheap is the order of the day. I had contemplated the Octavias and Mondeos of this world but in reality I really don't need anything that big and 90% of my driving is on tight town roads where it's just not worth it.
I'm only like to cover about 4000 miles or less each year and ideally I'd like something that I can keep for at least a couple of years without needing to spend twice what I paid for it each MOT. I don't really care too much about mod cons so as long as it has air con I'll be happy enough.
Obvious answer seems to be the Clio 182. I have never driven one but really like the idea. Other options are Suzuki Swift Sport, Fiesta ST150, mk7 Zetec S, EP3 possibly. I had seen a MG ZR 1.8 for sale locally for £600 but that has since sold which for the price seemed pretty decent. I used to have a 1.3 Swift which I found really fun to drive so the Swift does appeal.
Budget needs to be about £3k or less. Could go a couple of hundred over for the right car.
Am I on the right track or missing something totally obvious?
I'm only like to cover about 4000 miles or less each year and ideally I'd like something that I can keep for at least a couple of years without needing to spend twice what I paid for it each MOT. I don't really care too much about mod cons so as long as it has air con I'll be happy enough.
Obvious answer seems to be the Clio 182. I have never driven one but really like the idea. Other options are Suzuki Swift Sport, Fiesta ST150, mk7 Zetec S, EP3 possibly. I had seen a MG ZR 1.8 for sale locally for £600 but that has since sold which for the price seemed pretty decent. I used to have a 1.3 Swift which I found really fun to drive so the Swift does appeal.
Budget needs to be about £3k or less. Could go a couple of hundred over for the right car.
Am I on the right track or missing something totally obvious?
Warm hatch wise there are a few crackers:
1.6T Astra this one is a bit of a sleeper.
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
Grande Punto T Jet Sporting
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
Alfa Mito Veloce in 120/140/155bhp form
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
Another good warm hatch is the Megane 2.0T Coupe:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
308 GT180
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
Suzuki Swift Sport
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
Hot Hatch wise there's these:
Megane RS
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
Corsa VXR
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
Clio 197
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
Leon FR
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
Astra VXR
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
1.6T Astra this one is a bit of a sleeper.
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
Grande Punto T Jet Sporting
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
Alfa Mito Veloce in 120/140/155bhp form
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
Another good warm hatch is the Megane 2.0T Coupe:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
308 GT180
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
Suzuki Swift Sport
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
Hot Hatch wise there's these:
Megane RS
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
Corsa VXR
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
Clio 197
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
Leon FR
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
Astra VXR
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
ZX10R NIN said:
Warm hatch wise there are a few crackers:
Thanks for the options as always. Should have specified that I really do want N/A rather than turbo. The Clio 197 appeals hugely but would be worried about needing a gearbox rebuild on anything around the £3k mark since they're supposedly the weak point.You don't want turbo, but how about super? £3,000 hot hatches are my bag, and my R53 MINI has been the most reliable car I've ever owned. I've had a couple of Clio 182 and they are a better drive out of the box... but definitely less reliable, at the same time though, they are at least cheap to repair!
CrippsCorner said:
You don't want turbo, but how about super? £3,000 hot hatches are my bag, and my R53 MINI has been the most reliable car I've ever owned. I've had a couple of Clio 182 and they are a better drive out of the box... but definitely less reliable, at the same time though, they are at least cheap to repair!
You got lucky and bought the only reliable r53 built, or every other car you've owned must have been a complete heap of ste. I've had my r53 for around 2 months and it's constantly needing something fixed. this seems to be a common theme on the r53OC FB group. It is a very characterful and fun little car though. I'm totally sold on the supercharger. Much better than modern turbos.CrippsCorner said:
You don't want turbo, but how about super? £3,000 hot hatches are my bag, and my R53 MINI has been the most reliable car I've ever owned. I've had a couple of Clio 182 and they are a better drive out of the box... but definitely less reliable, at the same time though, they are at least cheap to repair!
Gotta be N/A I think. I just prefer the power delivery and being high up in the rev range. The Clios appeal more than anything else at the moment. I do like the Fiesta ST150 but just doesn't seem like as good of a deal considering the prices compared to the performance and car you get for it. Helps that there's a highly rated Renault specialist a 5 minute drive from me so if I do end up with something going wrong I can probably get it fixed by a specialist.nunpuncher said:
CrippsCorner said:
You don't want turbo, but how about super? £3,000 hot hatches are my bag, and my R53 MINI has been the most reliable car I've ever owned. I've had a couple of Clio 182 and they are a better drive out of the box... but definitely less reliable, at the same time though, they are at least cheap to repair!
You got lucky and bought the only reliable r53 built, or every other car you've owned must have been a complete heap of ste. I've had my r53 for around 2 months and it's constantly needing something fixed. this seems to be a common theme on the r53OC FB group. It is a very characterful and fun little car though. I'm totally sold on the supercharger. Much better than modern turbos.Agree with the supercharger, very addictive! Going to miss the sound when I move on, and of the Milltek too, can't beat the pops and bangs on a MINI
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