Asking dealer to swap tyres?
Asking dealer to swap tyres?
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Speed Badger

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3,707 posts

146 months

Tuesday 1st January 2019
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Hi all, merry new year. I am in negotiations with a franchise dealer about a Civic type r. It has been fitted with new budget ditch finder tyres on the rear by them, for the sale. I have said I don't think it's acceptable for a performance car to have these tyres on, especially if I'm paying circa £21k for it. They won't budge on price and won't change the tyres. Am I unreasonable to ask/expect this?

(and yes I bid a fond and sad farewell to the FD2 just before xmas).

Rick101

7,188 posts

179 months

Tuesday 1st January 2019
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Just walk away. Give it a week, then go buy one elsewhere, or better, privately.

snake_oil

2,039 posts

104 months

Tuesday 1st January 2019
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Speed Badger said:
They won't budge on price and won't the change tyres. Am I unreasonable to ask/expect this?
I'd walk and find another.

sandman77

3,360 posts

167 months

Tuesday 1st January 2019
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It’s not unreasonable to ask. In fact you can ask for what you want when buying a new car but it is unlikely the dealer will shell out £500+ on a new set of performance tyres.

SS2.

14,709 posts

267 months

Tuesday 1st January 2019
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You can ask for whatever you like - they can agree, or they can decline.

Only you know whether the [best] deal you have reached warrants your acceptance, or your walking away.

Trikster

931 posts

231 months

Tuesday 1st January 2019
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Not an unreasonable request - assume it's under an approved scheme? if so do they not have standards, I would expect an approved car to have the recommended manufacturers tyres on it, or is it just tyre tread depth?

But as folks say, walk away if you're not happy, not like it's a rare car...

NotBenny

3,920 posts

209 months

Tuesday 1st January 2019
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I used one deal a lot with lease companies and they wouldn’t fit anything other than premium brands because they couldn’t resell the car at the end of the lease with st tyres...

If I was spending £21k on a relatively new hot hatch I’d expect OEM tyres on each corner, with similar tread depth across each axles (not necessarily front to rear though).

If they won’t sort it then find another car, or a dealer that will.

Speed Badger

Original Poster:

3,707 posts

146 months

Tuesday 1st January 2019
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Yes it's Honda approved used. Thing is they are actually quite rare - I want one in grey and there are 9 on auto trader, 3 are out of budget, 3 are miles away and with too much mileage, 2 I've seen already and rejected, leaving 1! I'm happy with the price, but not if I then have to immediately shell out £350 odd for new tyres.

I guess there is nothing to say a performance car should have a performance tyre on a approved used scheme. I can't imagine a dealer selling a GTR or a Ferrari with brand new budget tyres. I even suggested they take the budgets off, keep them for another vehicle and I'll pay a contribution towards premium tyres, but that was flatly refused. Its not like its a £500 stbox.

Motorrad

6,811 posts

216 months

Tuesday 1st January 2019
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snake_oil said:
I'd walk and find another.
Me too, I'd also tell them why they lost the sale. They won't care though.

edit to add: the garage sounds st, if they are treating you like this before they have your money imagine how they'll deal with problems once they do have it.

Edited by Motorrad on Tuesday 1st January 10:27

T5R+

1,226 posts

238 months

Tuesday 1st January 2019
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Does not matter if we think them ditchfinders, if approved by Honda unlikely they will budge.

If unapproved, unsure what Honda think plus any insurance company.

I have been surprised on used franchised vehicles how many "seemingly budget brands" are approved.

GregK2

1,723 posts

175 months

Tuesday 1st January 2019
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No explanation from them offered as to why they won't change them? I'm surprised tbh. What brand of tyre is it they've got fitted?

HTP99

25,143 posts

169 months

Tuesday 1st January 2019
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GregK2 said:
No explanation from them offered as to why they won't change them? I'm surprised tbh. What brand of tyre is it they've got fitted?
Because the tyres on there are perfectly legal probably.

bitchstewie

67,374 posts

239 months

Tuesday 1st January 2019
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Are you happy with everything else about the car?

Devils advocate you're talking about something like 1.5% of the purchase price and presumably your time/hassle in finding another.

Have you said to them categorically "Sort the tyres and I will buy the car"?

road_rager

1,091 posts

228 months

Tuesday 1st January 2019
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Personally I'd walk, not because of the tyres but more the inflexibility

Speed Badger

Original Poster:

3,707 posts

146 months

Tuesday 1st January 2019
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GregK2 said:
No explanation from them offered as to why they won't change them? I'm surprised tbh. What brand of tyre is it they've got fitted?
No they just said they can't do anything about the tyres as the car has been heavily reduced, which it has been in the run up to Xmas, but it was too high in comparison with similar cars to begin with.

They tyres are called Eternity - unless they are secretly good? I've never heard of them.

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

225 months

Tuesday 1st January 2019
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Personally I’ve never fitted anything but the oem continentals on my Type-R.

It’s grey too smile

lost in espace

6,586 posts

236 months

Tuesday 1st January 2019
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Stick decent ones on and sell the cheapo ones on ebay?

GregK2

1,723 posts

175 months

Tuesday 1st January 2019
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Never heard of them either, so I suspect your ditchfinder description is accurate!

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

225 months

Tuesday 1st January 2019
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Or swap them with the fronts and book a track day.

spaceship

922 posts

204 months

Tuesday 1st January 2019
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[quote=Speed Badger

They tyres are called Eternity - unless they are secretly good? I've never heard of them.
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That’s probably how long they’ll last!

If it’s the car you want at the price you want - I’d buy it and put new rubber on it yourself. At least you’ll be happy with it then.

As previously said, sell the ditchfinders on gumtree. Someone will be after cheap tread.