Fancy buying a "cat " car ?
Fancy buying a "cat " car ?
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NormarkSuperswede

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168 posts

92 months

Thursday 10th January 2019
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worth reading. Some might be shocked !

https://www.bimmerforums.co.uk/forum/f74/buying-ca...

The Turbonator

2,792 posts

180 months

Thursday 10th January 2019
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Do you have to be a member to see the images?

Cupramax

10,999 posts

281 months

Thursday 10th January 2019
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Only those stupid enough to think theyre getting a bargain...

NormarkSuperswede

Original Poster:

168 posts

92 months

Thursday 10th January 2019
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The Turbonator said:
Do you have to be a member to see the images?
Good Point . The basis is.car that have huge damage made to look like the "cat" rating is a lot less.The pics are amazing. It really needs to be stopped .Huge crime gangs .And of course the parts required are going to be " stolen" ?

The link to the site :https://www.vcheck.uk/

the original post was made on a BMW forum .The pics are mental. I always wonder why those wrecked cars on the back of transporters cover up the reg plates !

Fore Left

1,609 posts

211 months

Thursday 10th January 2019
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The Turbonator said:
Do you have to be a member to see the images?
Yes. Here's the first car if you don't fancy signing up. Shocking...



350Z on the Wolds

44 posts

108 months

Friday 11th January 2019
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Any chance anybody could post some more examples who is a member, i'm finding this astonishing.

lcs_turbo

103 posts

127 months

Friday 11th January 2019
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For those that aren’t registered





350Z on the Wolds

44 posts

108 months

Friday 11th January 2019
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lcs_turbo said:
For those that aren’t registered




Damn. Thank you for posting.

S8QUATTRO

943 posts

179 months

Friday 11th January 2019
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Theres a youtuber who shows images of these types of damaged cars, getting slightly better put together and flipped, I think is SAMCRAC or SAMCRACK

They show the previous sale dates and prices on salvage cars form certain sellers, looks like its a big business

Saleen836

12,489 posts

238 months

Friday 11th January 2019
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This is why a lot of vehicles sold at salvage auctions are shipped to Europe, they are repaired and shipped back with no CAT rating and passed on to unsuspecting buyers

flibbage0

207 posts

170 months

Friday 11th January 2019
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Saleen836 said:
This is why a lot of vehicles sold at salvage auctions are shipped to Europe, they are repaired and shipped back with no CAT rating and passed on to unsuspecting buyers
I was wondering how they come back HPI clear, surely if a car is damaged or stolen it will be on the record as being damaged or stolen. So just exporting it out of the UK clears this record?

Surely that's a loophole needs to be fixed?

ZX10R NIN

30,528 posts

154 months

Sunday 28th April 2019
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Standard rule I give to most people is if it's been cat'd then get it inspected.

mholt1995

571 posts

110 months

Sunday 28th April 2019
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flibbage0 said:
Saleen836 said:
This is why a lot of vehicles sold at salvage auctions are shipped to Europe, they are repaired and shipped back with no CAT rating and passed on to unsuspecting buyers
I was wondering how they come back HPI clear, surely if a car is damaged or stolen it will be on the record as being damaged or stolen. So just exporting it out of the UK clears this record?

Surely that's a loophole needs to be fixed?
I believe if that happens then the hpi check will show it's been exported - seen it a couple times and my (admittedly a little paranoid) assumption is that it's been written off and sent away for repairs and to remove the marker

mbwoy84

624 posts

141 months

Sunday 28th April 2019
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I’ve bought plenty of Cat Registered cars, but as a bodyshop/resto workshop owner I only buy them in their damaged state and if/when I sell them I have plenty of damaged photos and a photographic record of repair and full catalogue of every new/repaired part and what has been carried out.

A few years back I bought an R50 MINI Cooper for a runabout, which was Cat D due to nothing more than a small dent in the bonnet. Thrashed it out slightly just to re-align the headlight and it was fully road worthy.

Now I used an Audi A1 as runabout/daily work hack, which I bought damaged. After stripping it it turned out to be the most badly damaged car I’ve ever bought (still not bad like any of the above, but did need a new flitch, which is further than I would normally go). I bought it blind as damaged/salvage, but didn’t disclose category and for the price I paid I wasn’t bothered. After repairing it I contacted the relevant authorities to check what category it was, and much to my surprise it wasn’t recorded at all.

The system is very flawed and some lightly damaged cars will get written off if the owners decide not to get them repaired, but just take the payout and get another car. Some insurers will add on the cost of storage, hire cars etc to the repair value, resulting in some cars getting written off etc.

The new Cat N and Cat S system is far superior in theory, but in practice the cars don’t get inspected thoroughly enough, so I’ve seen Cat N cars with structural damage and Cat S cars without any structural damage.

Jayridium

9 posts

109 months

Sunday 28th April 2019
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I had an old discovery 300tdi which got tail ended, the car that hit it wend under the disco rather than into it, result was twisted bumper and bent exhaust, motor got a cat d :-(