Buying a car with a new engine?
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More info would be helpful OP.
some questions you need to consider - why does it need a new engine? What went wrong with the last one?
If the engine is £21k - is this under warranty, or the dealer carrying this cost? If the dealer is covering this - they must have some margin on the car!
What is the car and what is the price?
as suggested by posters above, if everything stacks up this could be a positive.
some questions you need to consider - why does it need a new engine? What went wrong with the last one?
If the engine is £21k - is this under warranty, or the dealer carrying this cost? If the dealer is covering this - they must have some margin on the car!
What is the car and what is the price?
as suggested by posters above, if everything stacks up this could be a positive.
I've asked him to speak to the dealer and find out why it needs a new engine too - was my first question too.
Given it's a main dealer, i can't see them getting a second hand engine, and he will be able to confirm the engine with LR that it's a newly supplied unit.
I reckon (personal view) that engine (all I know about the car is it's a white diesel vogue) is being funded/part funded by LR and the dealer stumping up the labour charge.
Given it's a main dealer, i can't see them getting a second hand engine, and he will be able to confirm the engine with LR that it's a newly supplied unit.
I reckon (personal view) that engine (all I know about the car is it's a white diesel vogue) is being funded/part funded by LR and the dealer stumping up the labour charge.
It does definitely seem to put people off. I tried to sell a Mk2 Fabia vRS that had had it's engine replaced. New engine, less than 2k miles on it, with a warranty for 2 years. Sat for sale for months and eventually I sold it to trade. Might have not sold due to the engine, or just due to the common faults associated with said engine.
When I saw the dealers ad go up there was no mention of the new engine!
I guess the big question is why was it replaced? If it's a common error with that type of engine, might be indication the new one won't be too reliable either. Or if it was user error, could indicate poor maintenance, so what's the rest of the car like?
When I saw the dealers ad go up there was no mention of the new engine!
I guess the big question is why was it replaced? If it's a common error with that type of engine, might be indication the new one won't be too reliable either. Or if it was user error, could indicate poor maintenance, so what's the rest of the car like?
Drew106 said:
It does definitely seem to put people off. I tried to sell a Mk2 Fabia vRS that had had it's engine replaced. New engine, less than 2k miles on it, with a warranty for 2 years. Sat for sale for months and eventually I sold it to trade. Might have not sold due to the engine, or just due to the common faults associated with said engine.
When I saw the dealers ad go up there was no mention of the new engine!
I guess the big question is why was it replaced? If it's a common error with that type of engine, might be indication the new one won't be too reliable either. Or if it was user error, could indicate poor maintenance, so what's the rest of the car like?
He is going to go own and have a look round the car to see its condition etc - could well give an indication as to what went wrong. Dealer is also speaking to the mechanics to get a proper understanding of what went wrong requiring an engine to be replaced.When I saw the dealers ad go up there was no mention of the new engine!
I guess the big question is why was it replaced? If it's a common error with that type of engine, might be indication the new one won't be too reliable either. Or if it was user error, could indicate poor maintenance, so what's the rest of the car like?
£21k for an engine isnt that toppy - on my E92 M3, a crate engine was £17k (i believe!)
We bought a Nissan primera in 2005 at 3 years old. At the first service I think they forgot to put oil in it and took it for a test drive. It was all signed off as done, told my missus to come collect, then tried saying the head gasket had gone, smoking heavily. It wasn't when I got them to start it but it sounded like a tin of nuts and bolts.
That had a new crate engine fitted under Nissan warranty which was £7K then plus £2k for dealer
That had a new crate engine fitted under Nissan warranty which was £7K then plus £2k for dealer
Reply from the dealer:
'The reason the engine needs to be replaced from the technician is due to the lack of good oil running around the engine. This vehicle was transferred to us from another site initially; the previous owner only shows one Land Rover service back July 2016. The owner told our other dealer that it had been serviced elsewhere but no documents or records available. Due to the lack of a regular oil change according to the workshop is what caused the issue.
That is as honest as I can be. If you don’t keep theses SDV8 engines regularly serviced then unfortunately you need to expect issues which is what is happened here.'
'The reason the engine needs to be replaced from the technician is due to the lack of good oil running around the engine. This vehicle was transferred to us from another site initially; the previous owner only shows one Land Rover service back July 2016. The owner told our other dealer that it had been serviced elsewhere but no documents or records available. Due to the lack of a regular oil change according to the workshop is what caused the issue.
That is as honest as I can be. If you don’t keep theses SDV8 engines regularly serviced then unfortunately you need to expect issues which is what is happened here.'
If the price of the car is competitive (regardless of engine), I'd jump on that offer.... nearly 4 year old RR with a brand new engine? Got to be better than a 4 year old RR with a 4 year old engine.
They're clearly getting it (at least part) funded by LR or similar probably as part of an approved scheme/warranty so no real reason for them to cut corners...
Also the fact they're being up front about it suggests a modicum of honesty.
They're clearly getting it (at least part) funded by LR or similar probably as part of an approved scheme/warranty so no real reason for them to cut corners...
Also the fact they're being up front about it suggests a modicum of honesty.
Ursicles said:
Given it's a main dealer, i can't see them getting a second hand engine, and he will be able to confirm the engine with LR that it's a newly supplied unit.
You would hope. But this is exactly what a main Mazda dealer did to an 'approved' Mazda 3 just before I purchased it last year.Mazda UK were unable to trace the engine number, it didn't match the V5, and the warranty was void. Thread on PH.
Assume nothing!! (including that the word 'approved' is anything more than marketing).
Ursicles said:
So after more investigation he gets this:
'I have spoken to our used car controller and a brand new engine would only be supplied in a brand new vehicle therefore this will be a refurbished / reconditioned engine supplied to us by Land Rover.'
Think thats killed that plan then!
Depends how good the recon service is - if it's done by someone who knows what they're doing and carefully, then there shouldn't be an issue.'I have spoken to our used car controller and a brand new engine would only be supplied in a brand new vehicle therefore this will be a refurbished / reconditioned engine supplied to us by Land Rover.'
Think thats killed that plan then!
That said, you'll never really know. Move on I'd say.
£21k for a reconditioned engine!
If engine is knackered due to poor servicing then why would LR warranty pay for it?
£2,100 out of dealers slush fund more like...
So had you not questioned for more info then your pal would be off thinking his new car has a brand new engine with 0 miles on it worth 21k.
f
king chancers.
Post the ad!
If engine is knackered due to poor servicing then why would LR warranty pay for it?
£2,100 out of dealers slush fund more like...
So had you not questioned for more info then your pal would be off thinking his new car has a brand new engine with 0 miles on it worth 21k.
f
king chancers.Post the ad!
Edited by Chimune on Wednesday 16th January 17:24
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