Porsche Inspection Close Calls
Porsche Inspection Close Calls
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Jamescharman

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13 posts

85 months

Tuesday 19th February 2019
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Back in May 2018 I purchased a 26,000 mile 986 Boxster 2.7 from a chap selling through a dealer on sale or return.

I paid £10,750 for the car, and because of a combination of both the external condition (excellent), the spec (I had to have this one) and the excellent service history; I was foolish enough to not have the car inspected before purchase.

I think it's important to note, I am 20 and this is my first Porsche so I pretty much rushed into buying this one.

Anyway, 8 months later I have paid for the following:

A new clutch
A new flywheel
A new wheel bearing
And narrowly avoiding the £9k IMS issue, I forked out £600 for an IMS Kit and installation.

Porsche have also told me I need to replace the exhaust and suspension - although I'm yet to replace these.

All in all, I have spent over £3k this year on what I assumed would be a fairly low maintenance car, considering the mileage.

What I want to know, is given an inspection, have you had any close calls when buying your Porsche? What was it that made you back out?

Moderator edit: no naming & shaming please




Edited by jeremyc on Tuesday 19th February 10:47

xjay1337

15,966 posts

139 months

Tuesday 19th February 2019
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I doubt an inspection would have picked up on those issues, apart from the IMS bearing.

Jamescharman

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85 months

Tuesday 19th February 2019
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xjay1337 said:
I doubt an inspection would have picked up on those issues, apart from the IMS bearing.
Looking at what most inspections cover it almost certainly would have picked up on the exhaust, suspension, wheel bearing and most likely the clutch.

randlemarcus

13,644 posts

252 months

Tuesday 19th February 2019
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Why would you assume a Porsche was a low maintenance car? smile

On the bright side, you now have a clear path to a sorted car that's going to cost you less going into the future. Result.

AW10

4,611 posts

270 months

Tuesday 19th February 2019
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What was the fault/diagnosis that lead to clutch/flywheel replacement?

Are you using the Porsche main dealer? If yes consider finding a good independent garage; they're likely to be cheaper on labour costs and much cheaper on parts costs. Coffee probably not as good though.

And why do the exhaust and suspension need replacing?

R8Steve

4,150 posts

196 months

Tuesday 19th February 2019
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New clutch required on a 2.7 boxster at 26k miles?

Seems rather odd, as does the suspension needing changed and the exhaust for that matter.


Jamescharman

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13 posts

85 months

Tuesday 19th February 2019
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randlemarcus said:
Why would you assume a Porsche was a low maintenance car? smile

On the bright side, you now have a clear path to a sorted car that's going to cost you less going into the future. Result.
I kind of assumed that because of the low miles I wouldn't have any big costs until I'd put some mileage on her.

You make a good point, I think the gearbox is the only thing left to go wrong that's costly

Jamescharman

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85 months

Tuesday 19th February 2019
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AW10 said:
What was the fault/diagnosis that lead to clutch/flywheel replacement?

Are you using the Porsche main dealer? If yes consider finding a good independent garage; they're likely to be cheaper on labour costs and much cheaper on parts costs. Coffee probably not as good though.

And why do the exhaust and suspension need replacing?
So I used Porsche for the service, excellent coffee and complimentary courtesy car (on another note, how was my excess £50 for a 20 year old on the £65k 718 Cayman S they lent me???), then when they highlighted certain issues, I took it to a local Indy who has really done me a favour on prices.

I think the exhaust mounts (might be the wrong word) are rusty and can only be replaced with a full new system according to Porsche.

The suspension, on the other hand, I can't quite remember. Although I think its one of those things that is recommended to replace although it probably has a bit more life left.


Jamescharman

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85 months

Tuesday 19th February 2019
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Jamescharman said:
So I used Porsche for the service, excellent coffee and complimentary courtesy car (on another note, how was my excess £50 for a 20 year old on the £65k 718 Cayman S they lent me???), then when they highlighted certain issues, I took it to a local Indy who has really done me a favour on prices.

I think the exhaust mounts (might be the wrong word) are rusty and can only be replaced with a full new system according to Porsche.

The suspension, on the other hand, I can't quite remember. Although I think its one of those things that is recommended to replace although it probably has a bit more life left.
The fault for the clutch was that it essentially broke in 2 while I was driving and the flywheel was damaged at the same time - this was just in traffic

Jamescharman

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Tuesday 19th February 2019
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R8Steve said:
New clutch required on a 2.7 boxster at 26k miles?

Seems rather odd, as does the suspension needing changed and the exhaust for that matter.
it wasn't really driven for a year and a half so that might have been a factor

xjay1337

15,966 posts

139 months

Tuesday 19th February 2019
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Jamescharman said:
The fault for the clutch was that it essentially broke in 2 while I was driving and the flywheel was damaged at the same time - this was just in traffic
A clutch either works, or slips, or has a failure.
Doubt not being driven has caused that.

was8v

2,011 posts

216 months

Tuesday 19th February 2019
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Old car needs some new parts, shocker.

Parts generally expire on age or mileage. An old car you will be doing a bit of both to keep it in good condition.

Running an old car like this you either need to be handy with the spanners or have deep pockets.

A £3k first year on something like this isnt bad in the scheme of things, considering what you have had done.


R8Steve

4,150 posts

196 months

Tuesday 19th February 2019
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Jamescharman said:
I think the exhaust mounts (might be the wrong word) are rusty and can only be replaced with a full new system according to Porsche.
The exhaust mounts are separate from the exhaust and bolt on so a full new system seems a bit ott.

I have a 3.2 exhaust in good condition you can have for nothing if you want, i believe they fit a 2.7 as well.

Jamescharman

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85 months

Tuesday 19th February 2019
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R8Steve said:
The exhaust mounts are separate from the exhaust and bolt on so a full new system seems a bit ott.

I have a 3.2 exhaust in good condition you can have for nothing if you want, i believe they fit a 2.7 as well.
Steve that's very kind of you and I really appreciate the offer!

I was about to fit an aftermarket system before my clutch broke so I think I'll hold out for that but otherwise, I would of 100% taken you up on that.

Have a good week!




Norse_mann

112 posts

225 months

Tuesday 19th February 2019
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This sounds familiar - I bought a boxster for 6k with a bit over 60k miles in October 2017 and have had to spend quite a lot getting it sorted; I haven't added it up (too scared) but it has needed: -

Suspension refresh (new shocks and springs and various arms/ball joints replaced)
New clutch (IMS bearing and RMS seal sorted at same time)
New exhaust (stainless steel sporty goodness) but the cats and o2 sensors are expensive
Other odds and sods (coils etc)

It still needs some bodywork to catch some bubbling. I intend to do the brakes when the weather in nicer and some Michelin tyres would be nice.

Its not great that your low mileage one has needed a clutch and an exhaust is looming but ultimately it is an old car and things will need doing as parts wear out. Buying a 15/20 year old car is always a bit of a gamble and while you might not ever get the cost of the repairs back, you can enjoy it without worrying about the IMS - and if you come to get rid one that has had the clutch and IMS bearing done will always be a better proposition than one that hasn't.



AW10

4,611 posts

270 months

Tuesday 19th February 2019
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Most Porsches fall into two distinct camps for a given variant - either cheap to buy or cheap to own. Rarely both.

sandman77

3,060 posts

159 months

Tuesday 19th February 2019
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So a 15 year old Porsche needed money spent on it to maintain it? Who knew?

Jamescharman

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13 posts

85 months

Wednesday 20th February 2019
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Norse_mann said:
This sounds familiar - I bought a boxster for 6k with a bit over 60k miles in October 2017 and have had to spend quite a lot getting it sorted; I haven't added it up (too scared) but it has needed: -

Suspension refresh (new shocks and springs and various arms/ball joints replaced)
New clutch (IMS bearing and RMS seal sorted at same time)
New exhaust (stainless steel sporty goodness) but the cats and o2 sensors are expensive
Other odds and sods (coils etc)

It still needs some bodywork to catch some bubbling. I intend to do the brakes when the weather in nicer and some Michelin tyres would be nice.

Its not great that your low mileage one has needed a clutch and an exhaust is looming but ultimately it is an old car and things will need doing as parts wear out. Buying a 15/20 year old car is always a bit of a gamble and while you might not ever get the cost of the repairs back, you can enjoy it without worrying about the IMS - and if you come to get rid one that has had the clutch and IMS bearing done will always be a better proposition than one that hasn't.
Was is the 986? I think you'd see your money back on it now, or at least most of it! They seem to be on the up ^ £

was8v

2,011 posts

216 months

Wednesday 20th February 2019
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sandman77 said:
So a 15 year old Porsche needed money spent on it to maintain it? Who knew?
You could say the same about any 15 year old car.