Lexus diesels - cheap?
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I've seen a whole host of 10-12 year old lexus diesels online for dirt cheap. This being a prime example - https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
Why are they this cheap? They look nice inside, not too high miles, good fuel economy, should be good reliability?
Shame most are saloons as I couldn't get the dog in it!
Why are they this cheap? They look nice inside, not too high miles, good fuel economy, should be good reliability?
Shame most are saloons as I couldn't get the dog in it!
gman88667733 said:
I've seen a whole host of 10-12 year old lexus diesels online for dirt cheap. This being a prime example - https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
Why are they this cheap? They look nice inside, not too high miles, good fuel economy, should be good reliability?
Shame most are saloons as I couldn't get the dog in it!
Real world economy nowhere near good enough for a diesel. Low 30's most of the time. Narrow power/ torque band. Why are they this cheap? They look nice inside, not too high miles, good fuel economy, should be good reliability?
Shame most are saloons as I couldn't get the dog in it!
Good car, average engine at best. I ran one for 18 months. Financially, would not have been worse off choosing the 2.5 v6 petrol which is smoother, quieter and only 2-3 mpg off what the 220D offers.
200D (newer engine) was not that much better by all accounts.
Find one with the non sports seats which are heated/ventilated plus Mark levinson stereo, and it's a pleasant place to be. Goes around corners well too.
Parents had one of these... on-board computer reported just 38MPG (so I am guessing the real value was lower) and they drove it like miss daisy. As a result they did eventually have DPF issues.
On the earlier ones, the DPF issue comes up as an ambiguous warning triangle and a message about VSC... which makes you think stability control -> Wheel speed sensor or some such. Nope. Blocked DPF.
Guy I used to work with bought a 2010 plate a few years ago and had a horrible time with the DPF. He got it removed in the end (just before they brought out the rule change that you can't!). He'd be mooching to work in L1 at 56mph in 6th. These are spectacularly tall in the gearing, 6th at that speed is tick over. So no wonder his DPF choked.
However.... neighbor has just bought an 57 plate Avensis with the same engine. Sees over 40MPG and its done 136,000 miles. Previous owner says he's had no bother with it (if you can believe them). For £750 it doesn't really matter if it goes bang, but so far it seems pretty solid.
Have you looked at similar-time frame Honda Civics? their 2.2 had no DPF on it I don't think!
On the earlier ones, the DPF issue comes up as an ambiguous warning triangle and a message about VSC... which makes you think stability control -> Wheel speed sensor or some such. Nope. Blocked DPF.
Guy I used to work with bought a 2010 plate a few years ago and had a horrible time with the DPF. He got it removed in the end (just before they brought out the rule change that you can't!). He'd be mooching to work in L1 at 56mph in 6th. These are spectacularly tall in the gearing, 6th at that speed is tick over. So no wonder his DPF choked.
However.... neighbor has just bought an 57 plate Avensis with the same engine. Sees over 40MPG and its done 136,000 miles. Previous owner says he's had no bother with it (if you can believe them). For £750 it doesn't really matter if it goes bang, but so far it seems pretty solid.
Have you looked at similar-time frame Honda Civics? their 2.2 had no DPF on it I don't think!
gman88667733 said:
I've seen a whole host of 10-12 year old lexus diesels online for dirt cheap. This being a prime example - https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
Why are they this cheap? They look nice inside, not too high miles, good fuel economy, should be good reliability?
Shame most are saloons as I couldn't get the dog in it!
Is that cheap? It's not got much MOT - I guess if he thought it would pass he'd put a new one on it. Why are they this cheap? They look nice inside, not too high miles, good fuel economy, should be good reliability?
Shame most are saloons as I couldn't get the dog in it!
It's has two owners but the headline says one previous owner - is it normal for traders to do that?
I'd imagine he paid less than a grand for it.
I've kept my 2005 Merc C270CDi because it's been worthless for a few years.
Sheepshanks said:
gman88667733 said:
I've seen a whole host of 10-12 year old lexus diesels online for dirt cheap. This being a prime example - https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
Why are they this cheap? They look nice inside, not too high miles, good fuel economy, should be good reliability?
Shame most are saloons as I couldn't get the dog in it!
Is that cheap? It's not got much MOT - I guess if he thought it would pass he'd put a new one on it. Why are they this cheap? They look nice inside, not too high miles, good fuel economy, should be good reliability?
Shame most are saloons as I couldn't get the dog in it!
It's has two owners but the headline says one previous owner - is it normal for traders to do that?
I'd imagine he paid less than a grand for it.
I've kept my 2005 Merc C270CDi because it's been worthless for a few years.
Merc 270CDi... how reliable are those? (asking for a friend.....not that I want to get back into bangernomics or anything!).
I want to get out of a DSG car when the time is right. My last 2 cars have been DSGs, the first was newish and awful and this one is old and still a bit naff. A diesel manual is my preffered fuel type and transmission. But when looking for cheap, fault free motoring, it seems petrol is the best way to go (although i've only ever had experience with awful small petrol manuals! apart from an UP tsi which was fantastic...)
Are there any practical, cheap (2k ideally...), good to drive manuals out there?! Practical meaning that I can get the dog crate in it.
I've looked at so many options of small city car style things, but I doubt any of them are decent to drive.
I want to have fun and enjoy driving again! I'm only 21 and my car history lately has been 2 Skoda Yeti's and an Octavia. So not exactly exciting
Seeing things like those Lexus' they seem reasonably cheap and nice inside and look like they'd be decent to drive, which made me wonder about them.
I think i'd be happy with another 1.9 octavia in a manual really. It is such a good engine and I expect i'd get even better fuel economy. However, i've shelled out on a turbo on my current one (mostly warranty) and so id be concerned that id have to do that again on a replacement!
Are there any practical, cheap (2k ideally...), good to drive manuals out there?! Practical meaning that I can get the dog crate in it.
I've looked at so many options of small city car style things, but I doubt any of them are decent to drive.
I want to have fun and enjoy driving again! I'm only 21 and my car history lately has been 2 Skoda Yeti's and an Octavia. So not exactly exciting
Seeing things like those Lexus' they seem reasonably cheap and nice inside and look like they'd be decent to drive, which made me wonder about them.
I think i'd be happy with another 1.9 octavia in a manual really. It is such a good engine and I expect i'd get even better fuel economy. However, i've shelled out on a turbo on my current one (mostly warranty) and so id be concerned that id have to do that again on a replacement!
Edited by gman88667733 on Tuesday 26th February 15:50
Edited by gman88667733 on Tuesday 26th February 15:54
Edited by gman88667733 on Tuesday 26th February 16:21
Otispunkmeyer said:
Merc 270CDi... how reliable are those? (asking for a friend.....not that I want to get back into bangernomics or anything!).
I don't want to jinx it!The 270CDi 5 cylinder engine is quite sought after - I think it's a lovely thing. The car looks good but has "old car" issues with everything underneath going rusty, and things like the expensive wheel refurb I had done 4yrs ago is failing, but it's not worth getting them done again etc. Was a bit gutted to have to change the massive battery recently - still had the original!
If you can do suspension and brake (inc ABS rings and brake pipes) work yourself it'd be fairly easy to keep on top of it, but getting stuff done at garage (indie) prices makes me wonder why I don't just lease something new.
Otispunkmeyer said:
Given the miles, I reckon closer to a grand PX. Parents got offered 1600 for theirs and its got half the miles, good colour (metallic burgundy colour) with cream leather interior (heated/cooled seats etc). They bought an NX300h to replace it.
Merc 270CDi... how reliable are those? (asking for a friend.....not that I want to get back into bangernomics or anything!).
My CLK270 was immense It cost me an injector & an alternator I sold it with 170k on the clock & I'd added 90k it did have a suspension refresh.Merc 270CDi... how reliable are those? (asking for a friend.....not that I want to get back into bangernomics or anything!).
ZX10R NIN said:
Reliability is the reason they're cheap & the reason Toyota now uses BMW diesels.
This^, combined with ridiculous gearing make it not particularly pleasant to drive. Nice place to sit in the higher spec models.My wife has a 2003 CLK 270CDI - not sure I'd look anywhere else for sub £3k diesel.
cheers
Chris
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