Buying a new diesel

[theboyfold]

I'm just about to pull the trigger on a new Kodiaq, with a diesel engine as I'll be doing a lot of motorway miles on my new commute. Is there a risk with diesels at the moment and what might happen to them in terms of taxation in the future?

I know nobody knows the future, but I thought I'd see if there are any points of view that I should consider before I sign the paperwork...

[edthefed]

My own view is that by the time any major changes come in the car will not be worth a lot anyhow...5/6 year old Renault.
If tax goes up so be it...you will lise even more changing cars and depreciation.
Personally i have no need to drive in any city centre.
As a diesel owner im not worried

[Alucidnation]

Diesels are not disappearing anytime soon, regardless of what you read here, or in the rags.

[ZX10R NIN]

Any taxation won't be retrospective, also the Kodiaq will be Euro6 so exempt from any of the ULEZ legislation, so basically buy the car suited to your needs which in this case just so happens to be diesel.

[Pica-Pica]

edthefed said:

My own view is that by the time any major changes come in the car will not be worth a lot anyhow...5/6 year old Renault.
If tax goes up so be it...you will lise even more changing cars and depreciation.
Personally i have no need to drive in any city centre.
As a diesel owner im not worried

My views exactly. I bought a 335d two years ago, with intention of getting ten good years from it. I think the biggest danger is banning ALL cars from particular areas, rather than putting up taxes on Euro 6 diesels.

[Willy Nilly]

theboyfold said:

I'm just about to pull the trigger on a new Kodiaq, with a diesel engine as I'll be doing a lot of motorway miles on my new commute. Is there a risk with diesels at the moment and what might happen to them in terms of taxation in the future?

I know nobody knows the future, but I thought I'd see if there are any points of view that I should consider before I sign the paperwork...

Taxation should be punitive on anyone who uses the phase "pull the trigger"

[theboyfold]

Willy Nilly said:

Taxation should be punitive on anyone who uses the phase "pull the trigger"

I'll make sure you see the Lion's share of my contributions to HMRC. You deserve it.

Thanks for all the other replies, I guess there isn't too much to worry about.

[mercedeslimos]

On a side note, a buddy of mine who works at VW head office just got a new Kodiaq Sportline 190 TDI. It replaced an A3 Saloon 1.6 S-Line.

Average fuel economy is 8.5l/100km so not great. He luckily only has to keep them for 5 months before a new one replaces it, the new one will be on order in a few weeks

mpg in the difference between the A3 and the Kodiaq, has to hurt the pocket.

[theboyfold]

mercedeslimos said:

On a side note, a buddy of mine who works at VW head office just got a new Kodiaq Sportline 190 TDI. It replaced an A3 Saloon 1.6 S-Line.

Average fuel economy is 8.5l/100km so not great. He luckily only has to keep them for 5 months before a new one replaces it, the new one will be on order in a few weeks

mpg in the difference between the A3 and the Kodiaq, has to hurt the pocket.

That's only 33mpg? Must have been doing a lot of town driving to get that sort of figure

[mercedeslimos]

theboyfold said:

That's only 33mpg? Must have been doing a lot of town driving to get that sort of figure

Combination of Dublin ring road traffic, fast drives down the motorway to visit clients and the fact it weighs 1900kg. Same as my 2.0 petrol Eos with more power really.

[ninjag]

Alucidnation said:

Diesels are not disappearing anytime soon, regardless of what you read here, or in the rags.

^ This. EURO6 are very clean and they are still coming out with new tech to make diesels even cleaner. Take advantage whilst everyone charges (excuse the pun) to EV cars and soon you can enjoy driving past the huge charging station queues as you roll alongside the empty diesel pump - which won't be going anywhere because it's going to take even longer for the diesel haulage industry to change.

[Slushbox]

^ What they said.

There are some caveats: diesel fuel is about 10p a litre more expensive, VW TDi engines are cambelt driven and need a change at 5 years (about £400) , new VAG petrol turbo engines are often almost as economical, with less overall long term servicing costs.

There may be more depreciation on a diesel car due to DieselGate hysteria, and diesel versions cost £1000-£1500 more than petrol versions, which takes a lot of miles to recoup. On the upside, the extra torque of a diesel is better for heavily loaded cars, though modern VAG TSi turbo petrols close the gap.

You can check owner's MPG for diesel and petrol here:

https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/realmpg/skoda/kodiaq-...

Buying DERVs these days requires an hour with a spreadsheet with the above caveats pumped into it, unless money is no object.

Edited by Slushbox on Thursday 7th March 08:35

[theboyfold]

Slushbox said:

Buying DERVs these days requires an hour with a spreadsheet with the above caveats pumped into it, unless money is no object.

I've done that already! I'm advanced in man maths

[Slushbox]

theboyfold said:

I've done that already! I'm advanced in man maths

:-)

I use a little known form of financial planning called the 'what-the heck' gambit, based on the laughable 0.5% interest on my savings account and the warm welcome and free biscuits at my local Merc and VAG dealers.

Be interesting to know what you go for. The SKodiaq looks more versatile than the Tiguan.

[theboyfold]

Slushbox said:

:-)

I use a little known form of financial planning called the 'what-the heck' gambit, based on the laughable 0.5% interest on my savings account and the warm welcome and free biscuits at my local Merc and VAG dealers.

Be interesting to know what you go for. The SKodiaq looks more versatile than the Tiguan.

Went for a Skodiaq 190 L&K, should be here by June

[ninjag]

theboyfold said:

Went for a Skodiaq 190 L&K, should be here by June

Nice one.

I don't bother doing much man math anymore, what's the point as everything keeps changing. I used to prioritise reliability over driving experience which is fine if the vehicle is just a tool. But I like driving...so it was a case of bye bye Honda.

I had two essential requirements: space for the dog and family trips away and a maximum price I was willing to spend. So that narrowed it down to an estate or SUV and whatever selection came in with my budget.

Then I looked for what I wanted to drive and to hell with everything else because I knew if I didn't enjoy driving the car then it would grate on me every time I'd have to spend money on it.

[theboyfold]

ninjag said:

Nice one.

I don't bother doing much man math anymore, what's the point as everything keeps changing. I used to prioritise reliability over driving experience which is fine if the vehicle is just a tool. But I like driving...so it was a case of bye bye Honda.

I had two essential requirements: space for the dog and family trips away and a maximum price I was willing to spend. So that narrowed it down to an estate or SUV and whatever selection came in with my budget.

Then I looked for what I wanted to drive and to hell with everything else because I knew if I didn't enjoy driving the car then it would grate on me every time I'd have to spend money on it.

Yes, pretty much what I used to define what I'm looking for as well. There is space on my driveway for something small and sporty should I need to scratch that itch aswell...