How do you find if a used car attracts the expensive car?
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How do you find if a used car attracts the expensive car tax?
Looking at post 2017 nearly new cars, listings are pretty quiet about whether the tax is £145 or £465 a year.
I tried websites like this one:
cartaxcheck.co.uk/free-car-check
but it's just a lie.
The DVLA website wants the logbook number before it lets you know. So I guess they thought you need to buy the car first, and be surprised afterwards?
Parkers.co.uk has most used car tax prices, but that doesn't tell you about the options.
Any other reliable way?
Looking at post 2017 nearly new cars, listings are pretty quiet about whether the tax is £145 or £465 a year.
I tried websites like this one:
cartaxcheck.co.uk/free-car-check
but it's just a lie.
The DVLA website wants the logbook number before it lets you know. So I guess they thought you need to buy the car first, and be surprised afterwards?
Parkers.co.uk has most used car tax prices, but that doesn't tell you about the options.
Any other reliable way?
https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/cheap-road-tax/
You can pop the reg in here and it'll tell you.
You can pop the reg in here and it'll tell you.
Edited by S100HP on Tuesday 9th July 15:02
I have the Vehicle Smart app installed on my phone and find it excellent when looking at second hand cars. Simply enter the car's registration and it will return all the information about the car including when it was first registered, the road tax cost and complete MOT history.
Not much use when the garage insist on sticking their own logo over the number plate though.
Not much use when the garage insist on sticking their own logo over the number plate though.
Was the car over £40,000 list price when purchased new in April 2017 or later ? if it was then it would be the higher price. If it was under at list inc options then it would be the lower.
If it is at a dealer ask them to check... eg - BMW can look at what the car has on a system they have called IVS and search for the car with the last 7 digits of the chassis number and it will tell them the full spec of car inc any options and all the costs associated with that car when it was new. All manufactures have systems alike this but most not IVS anymore as very old system now.
hope this helps.
If it is at a dealer ask them to check... eg - BMW can look at what the car has on a system they have called IVS and search for the car with the last 7 digits of the chassis number and it will tell them the full spec of car inc any options and all the costs associated with that car when it was new. All manufactures have systems alike this but most not IVS anymore as very old system now.
hope this helps.
I tried the app, and Honest John. None of these solutions show whether the car was above 40k at purchase. Honest John actually says to check with DVLA if unsure.
The issue is that i’m looking at nearly new cars with a list price of just under the limit, so it’s difficult to tell depending on trim and options.
I don’t really want to start checking with each individual ad. And also I want to be sure and not rely on a sales person who’s quite keen to push a product. Some of the manufacturer’s user car website also say £145 for car costing way more than £40k, so I guess this new car tax system is all a bit of a mess.
The issue is that i’m looking at nearly new cars with a list price of just under the limit, so it’s difficult to tell depending on trim and options.
I don’t really want to start checking with each individual ad. And also I want to be sure and not rely on a sales person who’s quite keen to push a product. Some of the manufacturer’s user car website also say £145 for car costing way more than £40k, so I guess this new car tax system is all a bit of a mess.
denzilpc said:
i think autotrader list car tax on the cars for sale on their site under running costs
Same as the other websites, they simply quote the price after 5 years and add a little note:autotrader said:
*If the list price of a car is over £40,000, then an extra £310 will be payable from the second time the vehicle is taxed for up to 5 years
They do that for all cars, so still no way to find out. We used to be able to know the tax before buying a car. Not anymore.
Also interested in the response to this and not sure there is an easy way short of getting the dealer to check. Assume with the V5 ref it can be checked with the DVLA or via the manufacturer's centralised system for the original build/order.
Had this discussion with a colleague recently who was looking at Kia Stingers and a number of them hover around the 40k mark list price but he was buying nearly new. Seems like a bit of a minefield.
Also what happens if you buy a car 6 months old under the new VED scheme? Do you pay the first year rate for 6 months pro rata, or is there 6 months remaining tax paid from when it was first registered?
Had this discussion with a colleague recently who was looking at Kia Stingers and a number of them hover around the 40k mark list price but he was buying nearly new. Seems like a bit of a minefield.
Also what happens if you buy a car 6 months old under the new VED scheme? Do you pay the first year rate for 6 months pro rata, or is there 6 months remaining tax paid from when it was first registered?
Edited by ahenners on Tuesday 9th July 21:54
Use the DVLA checker thing. If it is has the premium bit applied it shows ‘additional rate applicable until’ with a date. Those not attracting that element do not show that info.
https://vehicleenquiry.service.gov.uk/ViewVehicle
https://vehicleenquiry.service.gov.uk/ViewVehicle
Edited by rix on Tuesday 9th July 22:21
ahenners said:
Also what happens if you buy a car 6 months old under the new VED scheme? Do you pay the first year rate for 6 months pro rata, or is there 6 months remaining tax paid from when it was first registered?
No when the original taxing owner sells/sorns the car within 12 months they are only refunded pro rata on the usual tax rate so effectively the premium collected for the first years tax is retained by the gov. If you tax a car within the first year you willl pay whatever the usual rate is depending on whether it hits the £40k new sticker price threshold.Edited by ahenners on Tuesday 9th July 21:54
ahenners said:
Also what happens if you buy a car 6 months old under the new VED scheme? Do you pay the first year rate for 6 months pro rata, or is there 6 months remaining tax paid from when it was first registered?
Very good point. I was also trying to figure out. First year can be a massive amount, How do you make sure it's the dealer who's going to pay it from the sale price.It's a mine field.
Edit: Ok pro-rata on second year then. Thanks Rix, that's reassuring
rix said:
Use the DVLA checker thing. If it is has the premium bit applied it shows ‘additional rate applicable until’ with a date. Those not attracting that element do not show that info.
https://vehicleenquiry.service.gov.uk/ViewVehicle
Brilliant, that's it! you are correct!! It shows up like this:https://vehicleenquiry.service.gov.uk/ViewVehicle
Edited by rix on Tuesday 9th July 22:21
Additional Rate applicable until: 28 February 2025
But only if the cars attracts the additional rate.
Cheers Rix!
rix said:
No when the original taxing owner sells/sorns the car within 12 months they are only refunded pro rata on the usual tax rate so effectively the premium collected for the first years tax is retained by the gov. If you tax a car within the first year you willl pay whatever the usual rate is depending on whether it hits the £40k new sticker price threshold.
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