BMW F10 181BHP 4DR ECO DIESEL

[layercake]

HI guys

i have been looking for a 2011 - onwards f10, i do alot of motorway miles 25k + per year, some of the cars i have seen have 150k miles, i have read alot of horror story's about the timing chains etc, i have asked a few if the timing chains / guides have been replaced, ones who have replied have just said no paperwork of any work being carried out.

Any advise from owners on here? or should i look for another diesel , i was drawn to the eco diesel with the £30 road tax and up to 70mpg not sure how accurate that is should see 55mpg easily i would guess if not the listed figure


thanks

[Liamjrhodes]

Currently have a 2012 320d msport so same engine
Averaging 44mpg over 4000 miles which is a mix of driving
best average was last week on a late night trip to the airport with an average over 120 miles of 56mpg

As far as I am aware BMW changed the design that caused the issue with the timing chain in 2008 so it should be a problem for the F10

[layercake]

Hi thanks for the reply

from what i have seen for sale some of these cars have decent miles on, one i quite fancy is a 2014 model with 140k for 7k which, one previous owner, looks like motorway miles.

[Summit_Detailing]

I had a 2011 F11 which had 130k on the odometer when I sold it, no chain issues.... 42 long term mpg calculated on fuel app as opposed to the optimistic obc.

I would recommend oil & filter changes every 10k to ensure longevity of the engine and components as opposed to the 'long life' service intervals.

cheers,

Chris

[Obee72]

The N47 (2.0D) engine has had well documented issues and was given a Technical update to take it to N47T but they do still happen and definitely did on 2008 models.

https://www.bmw-driver.net/forum/showthread.php?t=...

[Mr Tidy]

So based on the link above OP a 2011 model ought to be OK.

To be fair in every other respect the N47 is a great engine. I bought my pre-registered 57 plate 123d in January 2008 and did over 80K miles in it in 6+ years, averaging 48.7 mpg.

Edited by Mr Tidy on Friday 19th July 22:06

[Obee72]

I’d suggest finding out whether engine code is N47 or N47T and then checking for a good SH with regular oil changes and good MOT history. I can do a spec check if required or use the following:

To get VIN - http://ows-cdn.tecdoc.net/exide/home.jsp?server=7&... and use IE VRM GB with reg

To get spec sheet use VIN here - https://decoder.bvzine.com/

[jjr1]

I bought a 2011 F10 528i with the 3.0 litre engine the other week for 8k and 52k mileage. I wouldn't even entertain the 2.0d for that price. The petrol does an easy 33mpg and will deliver you quietly and in comfort.

[Obee72]

There was a sweet spot where the x28i was the 3.0 but didn’t last long as went to the 2.0 with more power. If I could find an F11 at that I’d be all over it!!!

[A900ss]

Regarding MPG, I had a new 2012 F11 (the touring) 520d Auto, I also did 25k a year at the time and a lot of motorway miles.

I averaged 52MPG long term (worked brim to brim) but the OBC claimed about 55MPG.

Shorter journeys would return about 45MPG, longer journeys at 70MPH, high 50’s.

Note that I did hardly any town driving. When I did go into town, it used to drink a lot. Big heavy car and town work don’t really work.

Good luck.

[layercake]

Many thanks guys

[ritch]

just to add my experience of the F10 520d. i had an 2014 SE model from new, ran it for 2 years and 19K miles, average calculated mpg over the 2 years was 45mpg. Higher mpg in the low to mid 50s was easily achievable on a decent motorway run.

Personally, I loved the car and it ranks as one of the best all round car I've owned, even though it was a diesel. I had zero issues in the 2 years I owned it.

I'm considering getting out the PCP cycle once my currunt 340i gets to break even point, by buying an older car like a F10 or F11 520d, and interested to know how owners are getting on with examples with 100K plus miles and associated costs. I understand the earlier engines can have timing chain issues, whilst the 2014 LCi models were supposed to have revised something or other to address this?

[A900ss]

My F11 touring had no issues in 80k miles other than an appetite for rear suspension airbags. Apparently it’s quite common (check google). Of course, the F10 saloon is fine as they run steel strings on the back rather than air.

[P700DEE]

62 plate F11 on 165K miles, owned 4 years and from 90K miles
New DMF and as out , clutch at about 105K miles
New rear suspension airbags and because I did not change imediately replacement pump.
Otherwise just tyres, disks , pads etc.
New condensor (recall) EGR no problem
Computer says Av 49mpg

[layercake]

very reassuring guys, i will have another look around most likely to be a saloon