Jaguar Xf 2.2 as a taxi thoughts?
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Looking at adding something a bit nicer to our current fleet of Skodas and Mondeo's for our taxi company and keep looking at Jag XF sportwagons
Any thoughts circa 2016 model? Thinking it's still exec but not in the traditional Eclass mould. Any feedback on the 2.2 diesel ? Considered a 3.0 but other than being slightly smoother and a bit thirstier I don't think we would see any benefit day to day
Thoughts on the car and even some alternatives for an executive option around £18000 appreciated
Any thoughts circa 2016 model? Thinking it's still exec but not in the traditional Eclass mould. Any feedback on the 2.2 diesel ? Considered a 3.0 but other than being slightly smoother and a bit thirstier I don't think we would see any benefit day to day
Thoughts on the car and even some alternatives for an executive option around £18000 appreciated
Previous shape 520d Touring has to be the answer? About the same price as the Jag, but a much better engine / gearbox combination - and no reliability worries.
SE and Luxury ride better than the MSport.
If you can make it work with a big hatch rather than estate, the 5-series GT is worth a look as they're based on the 7-series platform, so offer lots of space and luxury, a massive boot and low purchase price.
SE and Luxury ride better than the MSport.
If you can make it work with a big hatch rather than estate, the 5-series GT is worth a look as they're based on the 7-series platform, so offer lots of space and luxury, a massive boot and low purchase price.
Poppiecock said:
Previous shape 520d Touring has to be the answer? About the same price as the Jag, but a much better engine / gearbox combination - and no reliability worries.
SE and Luxury ride better than the MSport.
If you can make it work with a big hatch rather than estate, the 5-series GT is worth a look as they're based on the 7-series platform, so offer lots of space and luxury, a massive boot and low purchase price.
I wouldn't say its more reliable given the timing chain issues and EGR recall ... its the same gearbox too. SE and Luxury ride better than the MSport.
If you can make it work with a big hatch rather than estate, the 5-series GT is worth a look as they're based on the 7-series platform, so offer lots of space and luxury, a massive boot and low purchase price.
The 2.2 is ok, i always felt the XF really needed the V6 though. Servicing parts seem cheaper for Jaguar, discs and pads on 5 series are much more expensive and if you go for the touring then you have the compressor and airbags that will eventually fail.
The XF is quite small inside though but with wood and leather in most areas it feels a bit more special inside.
stevemcs said:
I wouldn't say its more reliable given the timing chain issues and EGR recall ... its the same gearbox too.
The 2.2 is ok, i always felt the XF really needed the V6 though. Servicing parts seem cheaper for Jaguar, discs and pads on 5 series are much more expensive and if you go for the touring then you have the compressor and airbags that will eventually fail.
The XF is quite small inside though but with wood and leather in most areas it feels a bit more special inside.
It's the combination of engine and box which work so well together - LCI 5-series don't have timing chain issues, and the EGR was sorted on a recall - mine was over 100k miles before it went back - and the only reason I didn't get another is the BIK tax started to get silly.The 2.2 is ok, i always felt the XF really needed the V6 though. Servicing parts seem cheaper for Jaguar, discs and pads on 5 series are much more expensive and if you go for the touring then you have the compressor and airbags that will eventually fail.
The XF is quite small inside though but with wood and leather in most areas it feels a bit more special inside.
Fantastic cars, I'd happily buy with my own money if I didn't have a company car.
I had two Jaguar XF 2.2’s - saloon and Sportbrake,
The engine and gearbox combination doesn’t work well for the car. It’s never in the right gear, always changing up and down to the point where it never seems to settle. The engine itself is enjoyably torquey, but in a very limited Rev band. It doesn’t sound very nice and you get 4 cylinder vibrations and harshness. It’s not a very luxury experience.
The ride comfort is not as cosseting as you might expect either. That said, handling is very good and grip is excellent.
Interior is visually fantastic, particularly in lighter colours with proper wood trim. Build quality and material quality are not as good as you’d think though. It’s very much “veneer deep”. Looks great, but doesn’t stand up to close inspection.
Reliability was OK on ours but they had electrical niggles and never felt particularly robust.
I would recommend a Lexus GS300h. Exceptionally smooth, rock solid quality, very luxurious and economical too. Boring? In a way, but if you’re driving for a living, boringly reliable is what you want IMO.
The engine and gearbox combination doesn’t work well for the car. It’s never in the right gear, always changing up and down to the point where it never seems to settle. The engine itself is enjoyably torquey, but in a very limited Rev band. It doesn’t sound very nice and you get 4 cylinder vibrations and harshness. It’s not a very luxury experience.
The ride comfort is not as cosseting as you might expect either. That said, handling is very good and grip is excellent.
Interior is visually fantastic, particularly in lighter colours with proper wood trim. Build quality and material quality are not as good as you’d think though. It’s very much “veneer deep”. Looks great, but doesn’t stand up to close inspection.
Reliability was OK on ours but they had electrical niggles and never felt particularly robust.
I would recommend a Lexus GS300h. Exceptionally smooth, rock solid quality, very luxurious and economical too. Boring? In a way, but if you’re driving for a living, boringly reliable is what you want IMO.
I’ve driven probably around a hundred of these as I used to work for a while for a dealer who mainly traded in them and I’d collect and deliver them everywhere in the UK. As previous posters have commented, the box and engine combo doesn’t really work. It does always hunt for a gear and there’s a particular jump between some of the lower ones. The engine is fairly coarse for a luxury car and when you drive the 3.0 you realise the 2.2 was really only fitted for economy. The 2.2 is a fair bit more frugal going off the mpg display in the car, I’ve never calculated either properly.
I seem to remember one local authorities licensing dept wouldn’t allow them for rear headroom reasons, presumably referring to exit and entry, whereas the authority across the river would. Don’t know how strict they are where you’re based.
The 3.0s is a lovely car. Especially when it’s not yours...
I seem to remember one local authorities licensing dept wouldn’t allow them for rear headroom reasons, presumably referring to exit and entry, whereas the authority across the river would. Don’t know how strict they are where you’re based.
The 3.0s is a lovely car. Especially when it’s not yours...
Glasgowrob said:
Looking at adding something a bit nicer to our current fleet of Skodas and Mondeo's for our taxi company and keep looking at Jag XF sportwagons
Any thoughts circa 2016 model? Thinking it's still exec but not in the traditional Eclass mould. Any feedback on the 2.2 diesel ? Considered a 3.0 but other than being slightly smoother and a bit thirstier I don't think we would see any benefit day to day
Thoughts on the car and even some alternatives for an executive option around £18000 appreciated
2016+ is the X260 so it's the Ingenium 2.0 diesel and not the 2.2d. I would avoid the X260 ingenium diesels, they have dilution problems. The x250 diesels are fine but the 2.2d is aimed at economy and can be laggy when exiting roundabouts. Any thoughts circa 2016 model? Thinking it's still exec but not in the traditional Eclass mould. Any feedback on the 2.2 diesel ? Considered a 3.0 but other than being slightly smoother and a bit thirstier I don't think we would see any benefit day to day
Thoughts on the car and even some alternatives for an executive option around £18000 appreciated
The x250 3.0d V6 is perfect but does have to be driven frugally to get decent economy from it. As a taxi I'd be using it for longer distance trips or special clients, the suspension is sublime, smoother than the S Class air suspension I drove and various BMW's and Mercs.
All x250 Sportbrake's are facelift so had various improvements including better seats, relocated dpfs so no issues there and other improvements. The interior is more plush and unique than the more euro generic X260 which has obvious cost cutting in some areas.
Rear legroom is fine but not amazing, this is the same for many longitudinal engines. It may be worth considering the XJ instead as you can get a long wheelbase version and the cabin is very nice, although no estate version.
Been eying up a few s portfolio 3.0 estates today means going a bit older 2014 or so to come in budget and taking a long term hit on economy but private plate hides the age and can always argue if your picking exec clients up they would prefer the smoothness of the 6 pot rather than a rattly 4 cylinder diesel
Glasgowrob said:
Been eying up a few s portfolio 3.0 estates today means going a bit older 2014 or so to come in budget and taking a long term hit on economy but private plate hides the age and can always argue if your picking exec clients up they would prefer the smoothness of the 6 pot rather than a rattly 4 cylinder diesel
They won’t notice, which is why most of these jobs are done in an E220CDi.Glasgowrob said:
Been eying up a few s portfolio 3.0 estates today means going a bit older 2014 or so to come in budget and taking a long term hit on economy but private plate hides the age and can always argue if your picking exec clients up they would prefer the smoothness of the 6 pot rather than a rattly 4 cylinder diesel
I'm assuming you are in Glasgow? If so you've got the added bonus of Prestige Jaguar in Paisley who specialise with Jaguar and Land Rover maintenance and repairs and have an excellent reputation. I've had my 12 plate 2.2 XF for about 18 months now. It was an ex chauffeur drive cat ( Littles in Glasgow I think from memory) it's now over 100k miles, but doesn't look it It's a comfy big thing, you are not terribly aware of the engine from the inside. I'm not aware of it hunting gears any, it is terribly laggy sometimes, coming out of junctions etc. The audio controls are comically slow to react.
I like its "presence " generally and hope to keep it a few years
I like its "presence " generally and hope to keep it a few years
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