Teenager/learner car?
Teenager/learner car?
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jonny996

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2,712 posts

245 months

Sunday 11th August 2019
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Getting close to my sons 17th birthday so looking at cars for his birthday.
What's the best options out there for me/him. I am assuming it is going to be driven by the insurance but putting him on the families cars is not going to be an option so he will need his own to learn in.

RSTurboPaul

13,005 posts

286 months

Sunday 11th August 2019
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Quotes for insurance before passing are usually very different to quotes after passing.

You may be best to spend a couple of hours plugging in options to the confused meerkats and seeing what comes out.

You will also have to take a view on whether or not you are happy for Big Brother-tracking Black Box fitment - it can lower initial premiums but there has been anecdotal posts on PH about how it has been used to justify increased premiums in future years, even when it has been removed. (That and there has been some suggestions that drivers avoid braking for hazards because they don't want to risk a 'warning' on the system, which must surely mean increasing danger.)

Sir Bagalot

7,046 posts

209 months

Sunday 11th August 2019
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There is a reason why the C1/107/Aygo is so popular for a first car

RazerSauber

2,856 posts

88 months

Monday 12th August 2019
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Yaris, R50 Mini One, C1 or equivalent, Corsa C or D. My other half picked a 1.6 Astra H because she wants to use it to cart her parents around and this came out OK on insurance too.

Dicky Knee

1,099 posts

159 months

Monday 12th August 2019
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Ford Fiesta 1.2 Zetec here.


blueg33

46,051 posts

252 months

Monday 12th August 2019
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2007 Fiesta 1.4 here. Bought for my daughter. Pretty cheap to insure and maintain, quite fun to drive for me (reminds you of the importance of conserving momentum)

In my daughter's case the car is a well specced ghia. I would however avoid the 1.25 Zetec it felt glacially slow, the 1.4 duratec is much better.

Example of how cheap it is ti maintain - I hit a deer with the Fiesta in the spring. It needed: new bonnet, new rad, new aircon rad, new front panel (mounts the rads, lights, bonnet catch etc), new grill trim, new towing eye cover. Total cost for new pattern parts was under £250.

tankplanker

2,479 posts

307 months

Monday 12th August 2019
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We went with a '09 Jazz. They are mostly driven by old people and avoided by kids so the insurance was cheaper than something like a fiesta or corsa. They are well put together, much larger inside than corsa/fiesta, easy to drive and have a large glass house to help with visibility. They are pricey compared to the usual suspects but it should hold its value well. We'll be selling ours soon and should get about what we paid for it.

kieranblenk

865 posts

162 months

Monday 12th August 2019
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Skoda Fabia was my first car and was the cheapest car I could insure at the time. Would always be the first port of call for a first car recommendation.

blueg33

46,051 posts

252 months

Monday 12th August 2019
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tankplanker said:
We went with a '09 Jazz. They are mostly driven by old people and avoided by kids so the insurance was cheaper than something like a fiesta or corsa. They are well put together, much larger inside than corsa/fiesta, easy to drive and have a large glass house to help with visibility. They are pricey compared to the usual suspects but it should hold its value well. We'll be selling ours soon and should get about what we paid for it.
Must depend where you live. The Fiesta was much cheaper to insure than the Jazz. For my daughter as a leraner the price is about £350 pa, when she passes I have been quoted £1250 with no black box.

When we bought my sons first car a Fabia was the cheapest to insure but that has changed.

g40steve

1,225 posts

190 months

Monday 12th August 2019
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Dicky Knee said:
Ford Fiesta 1.2 Zetec here.
Yes, cracking car & very good to drive, plenty of room for 5.
Some good features, N cap5, smart key (you can set limits if required) + all the usual spec.

blueg33

46,051 posts

252 months

Monday 12th August 2019
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g40steve said:
Dicky Knee said:
Ford Fiesta 1.2 Zetec here.
Yes, cracking car & very good to drive, plenty of room for 5.
Some good features, N cap5, smart key (you can set limits if required) + all the usual spec.
Surely the features depend on the year? A 2005 Fiesta wouldn't have that.

oop north

1,706 posts

156 months

Monday 12th August 2019
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tankplanker said:
We went with a '09 Jazz
My daughters saw the top gear with the presenters’ mothers testing jazz and a couple of others and announcing the jazz at best. Killed it for them - convinced them only retired people should drive them. We got a Polo with 60bhp motor. Jolly slow but quite nice to drive and quite cheap insurance (we might have been fortunate with nfu but no more expensive for newly qualified driver than learner) - my niece has a 107 and it is tiny. Can’t be much of a crumple zone

anonymous-user

82 months

Monday 12th August 2019
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Panda 100hp?

Novexx

395 posts

102 months

Monday 12th August 2019
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Fiesta all the way if you don't want to spend a fortune.

Bought a 2007, 70k, 1.25 for the daughter to learn in, then sold it on about a year later for around the same price, only cost a service & exhaust while we had it, both cheap as chips. Sold it on within the family about a year ago, it's given the new owner zero trouble & recently sailed it's mot.


GreatGranny

9,519 posts

254 months

Tuesday 13th August 2019
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Bought a £500 206 for my eldest's first car.

Had it for 18 months and only problem was a knackered battery.

It was the 1.4 so wasn't that slow and did 40 mpg.

Needed a few quid spending on it's MOT so sold for £200.

Youngest daughter is 17 in a month so bought a Fiesta to replace the 206.

sinbaddio

2,827 posts

204 months

Tuesday 13th August 2019
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Got an 11 plate Twingo 1.2GT for my son, Around £1400 a year after he passed, with a black box.

I was surprised it was so 'cheap' for a warm hatch. He has mates paying a lot more for slower, less interesting vehicles. I guess it's perhaps a bit left field?

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

218 months

Tuesday 13th August 2019
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jonny996 said:
Getting close to my sons 17th birthday so looking at cars for his birthday.
What's the best options out there for me/him. I am assuming it is going to be driven by the insurance but putting him on the families cars is not going to be an option so he will need his own to learn in.
I'd be tempted to look at cars like a Mondeo/Insignia/A6 or similar size. You'll generally get more car for your money and they are often cheaper to insure than small hatchbacks.

Plus learning to drive to a proper sized car is likely far more beneficial longer term.

blueg33

46,051 posts

252 months

Tuesday 13th August 2019
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300bhp/ton said:
jonny996 said:
Getting close to my sons 17th birthday so looking at cars for his birthday.
What's the best options out there for me/him. I am assuming it is going to be driven by the insurance but putting him on the families cars is not going to be an option so he will need his own to learn in.
I'd be tempted to look at cars like a Mondeo/Insignia/A6 or similar size. You'll generally get more car for your money and they are often cheaper to insure than small hatchbacks.

Plus learning to drive to a proper sized car is likely far more beneficial longer term.
In my experience of comparing Meerkats cars like that are considerably more expensive to insure for new and learner drivers.

I got quotes for a range of cars with Fiesta size at the bottom and Mondeo size at the top with focus size in the middle.

A 1.6 Mondeo cost nearly three times as much to insure for a new driver as a 1.4 Fiesta of the same vintage.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

218 months

Tuesday 13th August 2019
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blueg33 said:
In my experience of comparing Meerkats cars like that are considerably more expensive to insure for new and learner drivers.

I got quotes for a range of cars with Fiesta size at the bottom and Mondeo size at the top with focus size in the middle.

A 1.6 Mondeo cost nearly three times as much to insure for a new driver as a 1.4 Fiesta of the same vintage.
Maybe things have changed. I know when my partners son was learning. An Audi A6 (think it was a 2.3 or 2.6 or something) was half the price of a 1.4 Corsa when we looked at insurance.Sadly he still went with the Corsa though.

anonymous-user

82 months

Tuesday 13th August 2019
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We ended up getting a Smart 4/4 on lease.

Insured it with Young Marmalade when he was learning then put in on our family fleet when he passed

I now really enjoy driving the smart on short trips and he drives a 26 yr old Volvo estate