Should I buy a 40k Range Rover?
Discussion
Hi Everyone,
Great to finally be a member. I've been using / reading the PH Classifieds, forum pages and articles for years but only recently joined.
I have a query that I would like PH members help with.
I am in the market for a Luxury 4x4 and have yearned after the new (not so new now I suppose!) shape Range Rover since they launched in 2012. I have a budget of around £40k and have been recently tempted by a well specced four year old (2015) Autobiograhy 4.4 V8. It drove great, had sensible miles, full Land Rover history and negotiated a decent warranty. I came within a whisker of parting with the cash but at the last second I had my doubts and I ended up walking away. I'm regretting that decision now as the car has since sold and it ticked all the boxes.
I do around 20k miles per year including a fair bit of towing and I would be part ex-ing my 2014 VW Amarok that ive done 60k problem free miles in from new.
I now need more space than the Amarok provides due to a growing family, I Just have some concerns regarding electronic/ Mechanical issues having read about recent range rover owners forking out fortunes in repair bills.
I would like to hear from anyone who could shed light on the following:
1) Having never driven the 3.0 V6 should I be considering this over the 4.4 V8 ? Is the performance / MPG really that different in the real world ?
2) Is there anything service history wise that I should be on the look out for ?
3) Should I go with my heart and leap into Range Rover ownership or go with my head (and my wife) and buy a ex Demo Touareg !
4) Are the government about to make my 40k Rangey worth a tenner by taxing the hell out of big diesels (I appreciate for this you may need a crystal ball)
I thank you in advance for any advice given. Also I apologise in advance if this topic has been covered before. I did look but couldn't find any buying info. I have the excuse of being a newbie.
Cheers
Cliffy
Great to finally be a member. I've been using / reading the PH Classifieds, forum pages and articles for years but only recently joined.
I have a query that I would like PH members help with.
I am in the market for a Luxury 4x4 and have yearned after the new (not so new now I suppose!) shape Range Rover since they launched in 2012. I have a budget of around £40k and have been recently tempted by a well specced four year old (2015) Autobiograhy 4.4 V8. It drove great, had sensible miles, full Land Rover history and negotiated a decent warranty. I came within a whisker of parting with the cash but at the last second I had my doubts and I ended up walking away. I'm regretting that decision now as the car has since sold and it ticked all the boxes.
I do around 20k miles per year including a fair bit of towing and I would be part ex-ing my 2014 VW Amarok that ive done 60k problem free miles in from new.
I now need more space than the Amarok provides due to a growing family, I Just have some concerns regarding electronic/ Mechanical issues having read about recent range rover owners forking out fortunes in repair bills.
I would like to hear from anyone who could shed light on the following:
1) Having never driven the 3.0 V6 should I be considering this over the 4.4 V8 ? Is the performance / MPG really that different in the real world ?
2) Is there anything service history wise that I should be on the look out for ?
3) Should I go with my heart and leap into Range Rover ownership or go with my head (and my wife) and buy a ex Demo Touareg !
4) Are the government about to make my 40k Rangey worth a tenner by taxing the hell out of big diesels (I appreciate for this you may need a crystal ball)
I thank you in advance for any advice given. Also I apologise in advance if this topic has been covered before. I did look but couldn't find any buying info. I have the excuse of being a newbie.
Cheers
Cliffy
I would probably go for a newer Touareg if it were me.... Less documented big issues, interior quality is arguably better, newer styling, etc...
If you can live with the niggling thought in the background of potential issues, then sure, a Range Rover would probably be a great buy, but I'm not sure I could forget the reputation.
Having never owned one, I don't see the mega appeal, but it is hard to deny how many people swear by them!
If you can live with the niggling thought in the background of potential issues, then sure, a Range Rover would probably be a great buy, but I'm not sure I could forget the reputation.
Having never owned one, I don't see the mega appeal, but it is hard to deny how many people swear by them!
rich12 said:
vtecyo said:
You'd have to be mad to buy a V8 petrol Range Rover in the UK IMO, unless your bank account has several commas in the balance display.
4.4 is a diesel FYI.Thanks for your comments so far,
I was referring he the 4.4 TDV8, I Should have been clearer. I think older ones did use a 4.4 petrol V8.
Im going to have to have a drive in the Touareg, there are some lovely ex demos about for around my price range.
Now that the Q7 has been mentioned I'll have a quick scan through the classifieds although I'm not sure how far my £40k will go.
cheers
I was referring he the 4.4 TDV8, I Should have been clearer. I think older ones did use a 4.4 petrol V8.
Im going to have to have a drive in the Touareg, there are some lovely ex demos about for around my price range.
Now that the Q7 has been mentioned I'll have a quick scan through the classifieds although I'm not sure how far my £40k will go.
cheers
It'll be a bit of a circular argument, some people will say the Rangie is the best car ever, others will say run a mile.
I recommend you sign up at fullfatrr.com for owner-based views (good bad & ugly).
I'm on my second L322, cant really justify spending out on an L405 for the mileage I do. Had the first one for 7 years and about 70k miles and I had no serious issues at all with it. Worst I can recall was replacing a front airbag which was £250 and took about 20 minutes. It was the experience with the first one which put me in the one I have now, a 5.0 SC Autobiography.
In between RRs I bought a Touareg Hybrid. It went back due to a persistent fault which the dealer couldn't fix. It was a good car, a nice place to sit, but ultimately it wasn't a RR.
Last thing I would say, and it's another can of worms point, is that I wouldn't be spending £40k of my cash on a diesel anything today, not unless I was happy to write off the full amount and keep the car til it folded. Many will argue with me but I've discussed this with a few premium-level dealers and they all tell me that it's already getting harder to shift expensive diesels due to concerns over to what extent they will be legislated again in future. It took me far longer to find this petrol RR than I would have taken finding an equivalent diesel (and I paid equivalently more), but I also got a lot more for my 12 year old previous petrol one than I expected to get.
I recommend you sign up at fullfatrr.com for owner-based views (good bad & ugly).
I'm on my second L322, cant really justify spending out on an L405 for the mileage I do. Had the first one for 7 years and about 70k miles and I had no serious issues at all with it. Worst I can recall was replacing a front airbag which was £250 and took about 20 minutes. It was the experience with the first one which put me in the one I have now, a 5.0 SC Autobiography.
In between RRs I bought a Touareg Hybrid. It went back due to a persistent fault which the dealer couldn't fix. It was a good car, a nice place to sit, but ultimately it wasn't a RR.
Last thing I would say, and it's another can of worms point, is that I wouldn't be spending £40k of my cash on a diesel anything today, not unless I was happy to write off the full amount and keep the car til it folded. Many will argue with me but I've discussed this with a few premium-level dealers and they all tell me that it's already getting harder to shift expensive diesels due to concerns over to what extent they will be legislated again in future. It took me far longer to find this petrol RR than I would have taken finding an equivalent diesel (and I paid equivalently more), but I also got a lot more for my 12 year old previous petrol one than I expected to get.
My housemate has done exactly this recently - 5.0 Supercharged V8 Autobiography absolutely loaded with spec.
From a JLR dealer with 2 years warranty so no concern about repairs. I expect its going to lose a lot of money and cost a lot to keep on the road but it's his money. He gets about 27 mpg on a run and 1X locally. Single figures if going hard on the accelerator.
Very much not my kind of car or budget but my goodness it's absolutely lovely to be a passenger in and puts its 506bhp down very well indeed.
From a JLR dealer with 2 years warranty so no concern about repairs. I expect its going to lose a lot of money and cost a lot to keep on the road but it's his money. He gets about 27 mpg on a run and 1X locally. Single figures if going hard on the accelerator.
Very much not my kind of car or budget but my goodness it's absolutely lovely to be a passenger in and puts its 506bhp down very well indeed.
Thanks cappo,
Some good points raised there, I guess nobody knows the future for big diesels but we can all agree that it doesn't look good.
I'm still leaning towards the 4.4TDV8, if it's worth £15k in 5 years I'll take that every day of the week.
I'll go hunting at the weekend, The search continues I guess...!
Some good points raised there, I guess nobody knows the future for big diesels but we can all agree that it doesn't look good.
I'm still leaning towards the 4.4TDV8, if it's worth £15k in 5 years I'll take that every day of the week.
I'll go hunting at the weekend, The search continues I guess...!
mholt1995 said:
My housemate has done exactly this recently - 5.0 Supercharged V8 Autobiography absolutely loaded with spec.
From a JLR dealer with 2 years warranty so no concern about repairs. I expect its going to lose a lot of money and cost a lot to keep on the road but it's his money. He gets about 27 mpg on a run and 1X locally. Single figures if going hard on the accelerator.
Very much not my kind of car or budget but my goodness it's absolutely lovely to be a passenger in and puts its 506bhp down very well indeed.
Sounds a bit mental to be flatsharing and buying a 50k+ car ...From a JLR dealer with 2 years warranty so no concern about repairs. I expect its going to lose a lot of money and cost a lot to keep on the road but it's his money. He gets about 27 mpg on a run and 1X locally. Single figures if going hard on the accelerator.
Very much not my kind of car or budget but my goodness it's absolutely lovely to be a passenger in and puts its 506bhp down very well indeed.
I've had 5 current model Range Rovers over the last 5 years, all but 1 being new. The first one a 2013 Vogue V6 Diesel was the worst, broke down on me twice so replaced with a new one which was faultless as have been the other 3. I've tried the 3 litre/4.4/5.0SC and the best all rounder is the 4.4. Brilliant tow car, fabulous place to rack up the miles, reasonably fast and a near silent cruiser on the motorways. Returned around 24-29mpg for me depending on driving style but great on the motorway and can get 35mpg if that's the way you like to drive. Drive them hard occasionally to stop the DPF from clogging up is my best advice as there's plenty of stories of these being troublesome but if give them the beans on a regular basis they're good as gold.
I had a few niggles but all round they've been great but get an official warranty for piece of mind as they are v expensive when they go wrong.
I have a 3.0 Diesel Sport for a change and in 12k miles in 6 months nothing has gone wrong.
Main dealers can be hard work so find a good one.
All in all a great car and I'll have another in the Spring.
I had a few niggles but all round they've been great but get an official warranty for piece of mind as they are v expensive when they go wrong.
I have a 3.0 Diesel Sport for a change and in 12k miles in 6 months nothing has gone wrong.
Main dealers can be hard work so find a good one.
All in all a great car and I'll have another in the Spring.
ZX10R NIN said:
The 4.4 is the pick out of the two I've sourced a fair few luxury 4x4's & they all have issues but it does seem to be luck of the draw so I'd say yes buy the RR get one from a main dealer with the two year warranty & you'll have the peace of mind too.
Been searching for an L405 Auto to replace my L322. Main dealers do charge quite a hefty premium.Say, £3k ish. If you want a Range Rover, get one. You won’t be happy until you’ve had one (and I think they’re great).
If you want a full fat RR, I’d get the 4.4V8. If you want a RRS, get the 3.0V6. The V6 is smoother and lighter, and in the RRS it is uprated to over 300hp (it’s nearer 250hp in the FFRR) so the 330hp V8 offers very little extra power to counter the extra weight.
If you want a full fat RR, I’d get the 4.4V8. If you want a RRS, get the 3.0V6. The V6 is smoother and lighter, and in the RRS it is uprated to over 300hp (it’s nearer 250hp in the FFRR) so the 330hp V8 offers very little extra power to counter the extra weight.
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