Modern family cars that ride smoothly and handle well?
Modern family cars that ride smoothly and handle well?
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MC Bodge

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29,554 posts

204 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2019
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Thinking along the lines of the 405/406 and Mk1-4 Mondeo and their good chassis, what modern family estate cars ride smoothly, stter nicely and handle well?










Shiv_P

3,034 posts

134 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2019
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Mondeo

I can see the incoming 5 series posts but the M sport ones I have been in do not ride well

DoubleD

22,154 posts

137 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2019
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Most cars will if you have the right wheels on it. A big non sporty Merc or BMW on smallish wheels would be the best bet.

snowandrocks

1,054 posts

171 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2019
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I'm not sure that a merc is the answer. As far as I know all UK e classes now come with sports suspension fitted.

I ran a '15 e350cdi for a few years and although I liked the car, the ride and handling were crap. It managed to be both crashy and wallowy/stodgy at the same time. Amazingly my 17 year old sheddy accord tourer is miles ahead on both fronts and can carry a lot more speed over a twisty road with less effort.

HustleRussell

26,479 posts

189 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2019
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What’s the Peugeot 508 like? Handsome thing.

flatso

1,364 posts

158 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2019
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Good thread! My dad ran a 406 for a few years and the chassis was brilliant in how it managed to unite a very comfortable and compliant ride with great road holding ability. My old e39 was also great!

Also curious to see what others say about more modern cars.

ZX10R NIN

30,523 posts

154 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2019
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I'd say all cars handle well these days it would help narrow it down if you gave us an idea of budget.

MC Bodge

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29,554 posts

204 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2019
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ZX10R NIN said:
I'd say all cars handle well these days it would help narrow it down if you gave us an idea of budget.
I wasn't looking to buy, but the thread was moved here....

It was a fairly general enquiry about modern cars.

Good handling includes good steering feel, responding predictably and riding well on a bumpy, twisty road, not just sharp steering.

ZX10R NIN

30,523 posts

154 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2019
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I'd say most modern cars have lost a layer of steering feel, to me an E Class with the non AMG suspension rides really well.

CustardOnChips

1,936 posts

91 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2019
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5 Series luxury with comfort seats and without runflats should ride quite well.

My F11 MSport is a bit firm but is ok for me. I'll be ditching the runflats though come new tyre time.

Mr E

23,028 posts

288 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2019
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snowandrocks said:
I'm not sure that a merc is the answer. As far as I know all UK e classes now come with sports suspension fitted.
Mine sits on air; and the ride is generally excellent.

MC Bodge

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29,554 posts

204 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2019
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flatso said:
Good thread! My dad ran a 406 for a few years and the chassis was brilliant in how it managed to unite a very comfortable and compliant ride with great road holding ability. My old e39 was also great!
Precisely.

snowandrocks

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171 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2019
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ZX10R NIN said:
I'd say all cars handle well these days it would help narrow it down if you gave us an idea of budget.
They really don't.

Cars that manage to flow nicely at speed over a broken stretch of rough country road are actually quite difficult to find. Lots of cars are capable of cornering quickly on smooth roads and some cars have a comfortable ride, but cars that can combine the two are few and far between.

Short of going back to stuff like the 406 which are almost all knackered now, then a mondeo on small wheels does a reasonable job of it. An SE spec 5 series on the smallest wheel option probably isn't too bad either.

Jamescrs

6,340 posts

94 months

Thursday 24th October 2019
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HustleRussell said:
What’s the Peugeot 508 like? Handsome thing.
We have a couple at work in estate guise in GT Line spec.

Lovely cars inside, very big and comfortable to be in, nice dashboard stereo etc. Ours are 1.6 TDI's so not the fastest things but they move ok. The one real bugbear for me is the a pillar trims appears to be only held in by the rubber seals at either side of them so you can hold the alarm sensor on the trim and literally slide the trim from front to back and vice versa. I feel things like that which would be easily engineered out just let the car down slightly.

Overall though a very nice place to be

flatso

1,364 posts

158 months

Thursday 24th October 2019
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The Citroen C5 (especially in Exclusive trim with massage seats and double glazed windows) on Hydropneumatic suspension was also legendary. On extremely broken asphalt (rural Romania) the suspension was maybe a tad bit slow to react, but still supremely comfortable. The road holding ability was also top, once you got used to the slight "wallowing" of the body and the totally disconnected steering (the HP suspension kept the wheels absolutely planted).

Robbidoo

263 posts

196 months

Thursday 24th October 2019
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Assuming you aren't allergic to body roll, a 5 series in SE spec is a great family option.

HustleRussell

26,479 posts

189 months

Thursday 24th October 2019
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Jamescrs said:
HustleRussell said:
What’s the Peugeot 508 like? Handsome thing.
We have a couple at work in estate guise in GT Line spec.

Lovely cars inside, very big and comfortable to be in, nice dashboard stereo etc. Ours are 1.6 TDI's so not the fastest things but they move ok. The one real bugbear for me is the a pillar trims appears to be only held in by the rubber seals at either side of them so you can hold the alarm sensor on the trim and literally slide the trim from front to back and vice versa. I feel things like that which would be easily engineered out just let the car down slightly.

Overall though a very nice place to be
Cheers. How's the ride and handling? Steering any good?

MC Bodge

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Thursday 24th October 2019
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snowandrocks said:
They really don't.

Cars that manage to flow nicely at speed over a broken stretch of rough country road are actually quite difficult to find. Lots of cars are capable of cornering quickly on smooth roads and some cars have a comfortable ride, but cars that can combine the two are few and far between.
Exactly.

CustardOnChips

1,936 posts

91 months

Thursday 24th October 2019
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MC Bodge said:
snowandrocks said:
They really don't.

Cars that manage to flow nicely at speed over a broken stretch of rough country road are actually quite difficult to find. Lots of cars are capable of cornering quickly on smooth roads and some cars have a comfortable ride, but cars that can combine the two are few and far between.
Exactly.
This is exactly what my car is like. It's a 535d Msport. Fantastic at covering distance at speed. Even pretty good on smooth country roads. But terrible on bumpy broken twisty roads. Which when you live in the Fens isn't great.

MC Bodge

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Thursday 24th October 2019
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CustardOnChips said:
MC Bodge said:
snowandrocks said:
They really don't.

Cars that manage to flow nicely at speed over a broken stretch of rough country road are actually quite difficult to find. Lots of cars are capable of cornering quickly on smooth roads and some cars have a comfortable ride, but cars that can combine the two are few and far between.
Exactly.
This is exactly what my car is like. It's a 535d Msport. Fantastic at covering distance at speed. Even pretty good on smooth country roads. But terrible on bumpy broken twisty roads. Which when you live in the Fens isn't great.
We appear to have gone backwards, with faux track suspension for the road.