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Evening all,
This section holds great knowledge for cars I had never thought of, I am not currently looking to change but probably like most on here, I really enjoy looking at and researching cars.
I have had previously;
Focus st 225,cupra r 225,golf gti edition 35,mk4 golf gti, numerous (too many) bmws (e36,e46,e39)
I currently have a lexus is250 barge, it's a excellent car but a bit slow for my liking, because I got the car for a steal I will be keeping it until it dies.
Criteria;
Saloon (maybe the right hatchback)
Manual
0-60 in 6seconds
Petrol
4/5doors
Budget would be 6K
Not bothered about tax,mpg or running costs providing it's reliable.
Car would be only be used the odd evening for a spirited drive and weekends.
No small hatchbacks as I need to be able to get 3 small children in, although 1 can go in the front.
This section holds great knowledge for cars I had never thought of, I am not currently looking to change but probably like most on here, I really enjoy looking at and researching cars.
I have had previously;
Focus st 225,cupra r 225,golf gti edition 35,mk4 golf gti, numerous (too many) bmws (e36,e46,e39)
I currently have a lexus is250 barge, it's a excellent car but a bit slow for my liking, because I got the car for a steal I will be keeping it until it dies.
Criteria;
Saloon (maybe the right hatchback)
Manual
0-60 in 6seconds
Petrol
4/5doors
Budget would be 6K
Not bothered about tax,mpg or running costs providing it's reliable.
Car would be only be used the odd evening for a spirited drive and weekends.
No small hatchbacks as I need to be able to get 3 small children in, although 1 can go in the front.
Mr Tidy said:
Hmm, I was about to say a BMW 130i would seem to fit the bill - but it's another BMW and it's a Hatch! 
Appreciate your help but no more bmws 
stevemcs said:
I would have thought a Jaguar XJ would have ticked most of those boxes.
Will look into these now, many thanksKomodoWagon said:
Not a saloon, but Mazda 3 MPS might fit the brief. Five doors, 6.1s to 60.
Mazda 6 comes in MPS form too, and can be had in a saloon. Finding one might be a challenge, though. And it's the same engine as the 3 so half a second slower to 60, if that genuinely matters to you.
I wanted a 3MPS when we got our cupra but the misus at the time hated them, don't have a few piston problems? Mazda 6 comes in MPS form too, and can be had in a saloon. Finding one might be a challenge, though. And it's the same engine as the 3 so half a second slower to 60, if that genuinely matters to you.
Will research these now, thanks for the idea!
I don't know if your budget has any flex in it but, given your criteria, I would be tempted to consider these:
Saab 9-3 Aero X - 280hp & 4wd - https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
Vauxhall Insignia VXR - 320hp & 4wd - https://ebay.us/jkx3TT
Both are over your budget but a deal might well be possible to bring them closer.
I have looked at similar options recently and the Insignia VXR does seem to represent good value for what you get. Alternatively, a Vectra VXR might even fit the bill but they seem to be rare and a Vectra may not be all that appealing. That said, I quite like the look of this Vectra VXR estate if fast estates are your thing - https://ebay.us/8B1PZY
Saab 9-3 Aero X - 280hp & 4wd - https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
Vauxhall Insignia VXR - 320hp & 4wd - https://ebay.us/jkx3TT
Both are over your budget but a deal might well be possible to bring them closer.
I have looked at similar options recently and the Insignia VXR does seem to represent good value for what you get. Alternatively, a Vectra VXR might even fit the bill but they seem to be rare and a Vectra may not be all that appealing. That said, I quite like the look of this Vectra VXR estate if fast estates are your thing - https://ebay.us/8B1PZY
If it has to be manual the Vectra/Insignia VXR's are hard to beat:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
S4
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
S4
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
5Cylinder said:
I wanted a 3MPS when we got our cupra but the misus at the time hated them, don't have a few piston problems?
Will research these now, thanks for the idea!
I have a MK1 3 MPS. Mine suffered the Conrod issue by presenting itself through the side of the Engine Block, luckily insurance paid out. Will research these now, thanks for the idea!
The MK2 is a different engine I believe but not sure it suffers the same issue.
Somewhere in my collection of cars I have a MK4 Mondeo 2.5T running 378bhp and I think it’s absolutely epic, and hardly anyone knows the car existed as a factory model (not with 378bhp!). I’ve been pondering rebuilding it to 500bhp+, but think that may start to detract from it in some ways though.
5Cylinder said:
Mr Tidy said:
Hmm, I was about to say a BMW 130i would seem to fit the bill - but it's another BMW and it's a Hatch!
Appreciate your help but no more bmws stevemcs said:
I would have thought a Jaguar XJ would have ticked most of those boxes.
Will look into these now, many thanksKomodoWagon said:
Not a saloon, but Mazda 3 MPS might fit the brief. Five doors, 6.1s to 60.
Mazda 6 comes in MPS form too, and can be had in a saloon. Finding one might be a challenge, though. And it's the same engine as the 3 so half a second slower to 60, if that genuinely matters to you.
I wanted a 3MPS when we got our cupra but the misus at the time hated them, don't have a few piston problems? Mazda 6 comes in MPS form too, and can be had in a saloon. Finding one might be a challenge, though. And it's the same engine as the 3 so half a second slower to 60, if that genuinely matters to you.
Will research these now, thanks for the idea!
But any other options tend to struggle on the 0-60 in 6 seconds because they are mostly FWD and can't get the traction.
Mazda 6 MPS looks like a good option as I think they have 4WD, and IIRC the MPS only came as a 4 door as the shell was stiffer than the hatch.
Talking about Mazdas, how about an RX8?
5Cylinder said:
Evening all,
This section holds great knowledge for cars I had never thought of, I am not currently looking to change but probably like most on here, I really enjoy looking at and researching cars.
I have had previously;
Focus st 225,cupra r 225,golf gti edition 35,mk4 golf gti, numerous (too many) bmws (e36,e46,e39)
I currently have a lexus is250 barge, it's a excellent car but a bit slow for my liking, because I got the car for a steal I will be keeping it until it dies.
Criteria;
Saloon (maybe the right hatchback)
Manual
0-60 in 6seconds
Petrol
4/5doors
Budget would be 6K
Not bothered about tax,mpg or running costs providing it's reliable.
Car would be only be used the odd evening for a spirited drive and weekends.
No small hatchbacks as I need to be able to get 3 small children in, although 1 can go in the front.
Chrysler 300 with the 5.7 Hemi V8 This section holds great knowledge for cars I had never thought of, I am not currently looking to change but probably like most on here, I really enjoy looking at and researching cars.
I have had previously;
Focus st 225,cupra r 225,golf gti edition 35,mk4 golf gti, numerous (too many) bmws (e36,e46,e39)
I currently have a lexus is250 barge, it's a excellent car but a bit slow for my liking, because I got the car for a steal I will be keeping it until it dies.
Criteria;
Saloon (maybe the right hatchback)
Manual
0-60 in 6seconds
Petrol
4/5doors
Budget would be 6K
Not bothered about tax,mpg or running costs providing it's reliable.
Car would be only be used the odd evening for a spirited drive and weekends.
No small hatchbacks as I need to be able to get 3 small children in, although 1 can go in the front.
Mr Tidy said:
Fair enough, no more BMWs for you!
But any other options tend to struggle on the 0-60 in 6 seconds because they are mostly FWD and can't get the traction.
Mazda 6 MPS looks like a good option as I think they have 4WD, and IIRC the MPS only came as a 4 door as the shell was stiffer than the hatch.
Talking about Mazdas, how about an RX8?
Rx8 wouldn't fit 2 kids in the back and 1 in the front as far as I know But any other options tend to struggle on the 0-60 in 6 seconds because they are mostly FWD and can't get the traction.
Mazda 6 MPS looks like a good option as I think they have 4WD, and IIRC the MPS only came as a 4 door as the shell was stiffer than the hatch.
Talking about Mazdas, how about an RX8?
300bhp/ton said:
Chrysler 300 with the 5.7 Hemi V8
A rare left field option, I like it!I could fit bentley badges too it and everyone would think i'm rich!
(Yes, I am joking)
5Cylinder said:
Mr Tidy said:
Fair enough, no more BMWs for you!
But any other options tend to struggle on the 0-60 in 6 seconds because they are mostly FWD and can't get the traction.
Mazda 6 MPS looks like a good option as I think they have 4WD, and IIRC the MPS only came as a 4 door as the shell was stiffer than the hatch.
Talking about Mazdas, how about an RX8?
Rx8 wouldn't fit 2 kids in the back and 1 in the front as far as I know But any other options tend to struggle on the 0-60 in 6 seconds because they are mostly FWD and can't get the traction.
Mazda 6 MPS looks like a good option as I think they have 4WD, and IIRC the MPS only came as a 4 door as the shell was stiffer than the hatch.
Talking about Mazdas, how about an RX8?
300bhp/ton said:
Chrysler 300 with the 5.7 Hemi V8
A rare left field option, I like it!I could fit bentley badges too it and everyone would think i'm rich!
(Yes, I am joking)
The Chrysler isn't that quick though, despite the engine size (bet they sound good though).
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