vw/audi/seat 1.4 tsi
vw/audi/seat 1.4 tsi
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jason61c

Original Poster:

5,978 posts

203 months

Thursday 21st November 2019
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Howdy.

Looking at a car with the above engine, with the 7 speed dsg.

anyone had much experience with them? Just how good are they on fuel? Smooth enough? reliable?

I'm tempted by something like this...

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

or this

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...


Lozw86

903 posts

161 months

Thursday 21st November 2019
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Our 2018 1.4 TSI Golf DSG achieves 45-50mpg on dual carriageways or motorways. Over 50 if you’re careful. 40mpg around town

MC Bodge

29,554 posts

204 months

Thursday 21st November 2019
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I have a manual 150.

Probably the best all-round car engine I've owned.

Terzo123

4,727 posts

237 months

Friday 22nd November 2019
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I've had the 150 act engine in both the Audi A3 and Seat Leon.

Cant speak for the DSG ( Both mine were manual) but it's a great engine with good performance and economy. Touch wood, it's also been very reliable.


p4cks

7,480 posts

228 months

Friday 22nd November 2019
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MC Bodge said:
I have a manual 150.

Probably the best all-round car engine I've owned.
This. It’s simply that good

LeoSayer

7,812 posts

273 months

jason61c

Original Poster:

5,978 posts

203 months

Friday 22nd November 2019
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That’s good news. The seat looks to be great value for money

Terzo123

4,727 posts

237 months

Friday 22nd November 2019
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jason61c said:
That’s good news. The seat looks to be great value for money
It sure is.

Whilst the A3 is a lovely car, you would have to spend a fortune to get all the toys that come as standard in the Leon.

And driving wise, theres not really that much between them.


BenLowden

7,342 posts

206 months

PH Marketing Bloke

Friday 22nd November 2019
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Friend of mine covered around 50K miles in his Polo with this engine with no issues whatsoever, easily 40-50mpg.

VR99

1,391 posts

92 months

Friday 22nd November 2019
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I also like these Leon's but have never driven any VAG car before. The engine seems to be a good blend of performance and economy which is appealing.
How are the interiors of the Leon, I've heard it's not on the Golf or A3 standard but do the cars feel well put together and do they have a 'solid' Germanic feel and finish or more akin to say Ford/Vauxhall and bit more rattly?

nickfrog

25,244 posts

246 months

Friday 22nd November 2019
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Had this engine in the A4 Avant and it was excellent despite the weight. 41mpg average over 18k miles of mixed driving/commuting.

Drew106

1,652 posts

174 months

Friday 22nd November 2019
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Not sure about other 1.4 TSI's, but the Twincharged 1.4 TSI in the Fabia vRS/ Polo GTi/ Ibiza Cupra was notoriously unreliable!

Drank oil. Many suffered full engine failures. Mine blew up after 30k miles.

The DSG is a great box though. Very smooth and easy to drive. The engine was great too, 180bhp and 40+ mpg, just not reliable.

nickfrog

25,244 posts

246 months

Friday 22nd November 2019
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Yes the old 1.4 had a bad reputation but the new one seems much better

ED209

6,016 posts

273 months

Friday 22nd November 2019
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nickfrog said:
Had this engine in the A4 Avant and it was excellent despite the weight. 41mpg average over 18k miles of mixed driving/commuting.
I got an indicated 40 mpg in mine over the same distance. Decent engine once moving.

ED209

6,016 posts

273 months

Friday 22nd November 2019
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Drew106 said:
Not sure about other 1.4 TSI's, but the Twincharged 1.4 TSI in the Fabia vRS/ Polo GTi/ Ibiza Cupra was notoriously unreliable!

Drank oil. Many suffered full engine failures. Mine blew up after 30k miles.

The DSG is a great box though. Very smooth and easy to drive. The engine was great too, 180bhp and 40+ mpg, just not reliable.
My 1.4 twincharged 160hp lasted a whole 12000 miles in my scirocco before it expired

Drew106

1,652 posts

174 months

Friday 22nd November 2019
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ED209 said:
Drew106 said:
Not sure about other 1.4 TSI's, but the Twincharged 1.4 TSI in the Fabia vRS/ Polo GTi/ Ibiza Cupra was notoriously unreliable!

Drank oil. Many suffered full engine failures. Mine blew up after 30k miles.

The DSG is a great box though. Very smooth and easy to drive. The engine was great too, 180bhp and 40+ mpg, just not reliable.
My 1.4 twincharged 160hp lasted a whole 12000 miles in my scirocco before it expired
Ouch. At least it was under warranty presumably?

Mine expired a year outside. Twas' expensive. grumpy

Kev_Mk3

3,616 posts

124 months

Friday 22nd November 2019
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MC Bodge said:
I have a manual 150.

Probably the best all-round car engine I've owned.
Me also and this

BenLowden

7,342 posts

206 months

PH Marketing Bloke

Friday 22nd November 2019
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Drew106 said:
Not sure about other 1.4 TSI's, but the Twincharged 1.4 TSI in the Fabia vRS/ Polo GTi/ Ibiza Cupra was notoriously unreliable!

Drank oil. Many suffered full engine failures. Mine blew up after 30k miles.

The DSG is a great box though. Very smooth and easy to drive. The engine was great too, 180bhp and 40+ mpg, just not reliable.
I think the newer 1.4 TSI with 150hp is a 3-pot turbo, never heard a bad word about them. But yes the older twincharged engines on the other hand... Damn shame really as have always been quite tempted by the Fabia vRS but wouldn't risk it because of the reputation that lump has.

Big Nanas

4,242 posts

113 months

Friday 22nd November 2019
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I have an 67 1.4 DSG Seat Leon ST and its generally pretty good.
Interior isn't bad at all, pretty functional, but easy to use. Surprisingly in in the 18 months I've had it, nothing has gone wrong, and zero squeaks or rattles anywhere.

I've only done 10k miles, but my lifelong MPG is 45, which isn't bad I think (that's generally town/shorter distances, with a couple of 300mile trips up north).

Negatives? The drivetrain can be very jerky. I have trouble pulling smoothly away from lights/standstill and get an annoying jerk. Also there's a torque surge early in the rev range, which makes pulling smoothly difficult also - I'll either go very slowly, or I get the wheels spinning.
It's miles away from the smoothness of a torquiest converter box.
(Full disclosure - I use hand controls, so it could be my style, or the way they're set up. Ive never had this issue on any car I've had though).

I'd get another.

Big Nanas

4,242 posts

113 months

Friday 22nd November 2019
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BenLowden said:
I think the newer 1.4 TSI with 150hp is a 3-pot turbo, never heard a bad word about them. But yes the older twincharged engines on the other hand... Damn shame really as have always been quite tempted by the Fabia vRS but wouldn't risk it because of the reputation that lump has.
Mine is a 67 plate 1.4TSI and that's a four-pot.