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Lol999

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10 posts

81 months

Friday 3rd January 2020
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Right, need some serious advice (Lord help me).
I identified with the help of this forum that the best mpv for me, doing mostly 5 mile trips with a 50 and a 40 mph stretch in would be a petrol zafira.
Gravy.
So I test drove one yesterday and I'm looking at another tomorow but the rub is the footwell extending back towards the driver is quite narrow and I'm a big chap and I found it a bit uncomfortable using the clutch.

All the other MPV's seem to be either diesel or citroen and it is the citroen and peugeot that are most comfortable for me as I can relax more.
Question 1: what is so bad about a Citroen Xsara Picasso from a maintanance pov?
Question 2: Is a diesel absolutely out of the question even if I were to use a fuel treatment to keep the crap down and took it for a good blast once a fortnight to get st good and hot?

Your collective genius is required.........

blue_haddock

5,013 posts

96 months

Friday 3rd January 2020
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One of the main issues is picassos is that they are not exactly a petrolhead car so normally maintenance has been scrimped on and just generally not looked after. Most are tatty and if you look on the MOT history its obvious that they only get the bare minimum done to get through the test.

Common issues with them are the power steering pumps exploding, alternators are a weak spot and the sills rust badly.

The best one to get is the 2.0 hdi 90 bhp version, which is a very tough engine and it can take a fair amount of abuse.

ElectricSoup

8,202 posts

180 months

Friday 3rd January 2020
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There are a fair few petrol VW Tourans around, also SEAT Altea if it's big enough.

Another good petrol MPV would be the Honda FR-V.

Lol999

Original Poster:

10 posts

81 months

Friday 3rd January 2020
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I'm not seeing any petrol Tourans within reasonable travelling distance, FRv is unsuitable and the Altea isn't big enough.
Partners seem to be diesel only, Berlingo only the crap or out of my budget which is £2k tops. Can't afford to run petrol Galaxy or Sharan etc.
Hitting a bit of a brick wall but I need a car within the next week.

Jag_NE

3,339 posts

129 months

Friday 3rd January 2020
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FWIW my wife drives 3 to 4 miles each way to work in a diesel and the world hasn’t came to an end. It gets a decent run every 3-4 weeks minimum.

Lol999

Original Poster:

10 posts

81 months

Friday 3rd January 2020
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Fundamentally there are plenty of older diesels out there with short daily runs experiencing no problems at all, it only seems to be the modern dpf laden things that get touchy. How do taxi's go on, there'sloads of standard diesel saloons stop starting, so are they dpf hamstrung or do they have a more frequent maintenance schedule?

Agila b 6yr 6k

117 posts

124 months

Friday 3rd January 2020
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If the clutch is the problem in the Zafira, you could try an auto?

Presumably you require 7 seats etc or you can buy 7 seater estates or SUV types?

I'd have a look at an S Max or possibly something like a Rav4 or CR-V.

I'd definitely stay away from French (reliability reasons) and I'd stay away from diesel (not worth it because of low mileage and potentially troublesome)

Lol999

Original Poster:

10 posts

81 months

Friday 3rd January 2020
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I don't need 7 seats I need the space. often have 2 car seats in the back and those devils get bigger and bigger. need to fold rear seats down when taking wife to craft fairs etc.
I also have mobility problems so need a higher seat to get into, standard estates are a bit touch and go, CRV looks lovely but the running costs are frightening.
on a very low income atm so I'm really being forced into compromises I don;t want to have to make.

smax tend to be diesels and have been to Mars and back.

dodsi2000

101 posts

101 months

Friday 3rd January 2020
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Does it have to be an MPV?

Just there are many cars that have space for 2 car seats and folding seats and boot space. Ford
Mondeo has acres of space inside and available in many engine sizes and variations, as do Skoda superbs, Kia Optima, Toyota avensis. I think these are all hatchback or estate so not saloon size boot openings to deal with.

As a 6ft 5 chap - these are cars that I have fit in better than most.

ChrisH72

3,075 posts

81 months

Friday 3rd January 2020
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Okay I know it's french but...

My cousin ran a Citroen c8 for years with no issues. It had starship miles and just kept going. That thing was huge, basically a van. I remember helping him move sofas in it once.

They come as a 2.0 petrol. Very high on tax and probably slow and uneconomical but it is petrol.

The thing about french cars is that some go pop in no time at all and yet others seem to run forever. Pot luck really.

Agila b 6yr 6k

117 posts

124 months

Friday 3rd January 2020
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You could look at something unusual like a kia carens or chevrolet tacuma etc, ved maybe expensive on petrols. Might be a strategy to get you in something with a newer plate and less miles.

Good luck with the search anyway.

ChrisH72

3,075 posts

81 months

Friday 3rd January 2020
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Just to add my dad has had 2 C3 Picasso's over the last 8 years. The first a 1.4 petrol and the current one a 1.2 petrol turbo. Never had any problems with either. He's 6'2 by the way.

Another possibility is a Toyota Corolla verso 1.8 petrol. Pretty indestructible.

Dadoc2001

145 posts

85 months

Friday 3rd January 2020
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Looked at a Mazda5? They had the 2 litre Petrol and, as MPV's go look decent in Sport guise. Sliding rear doors are great too. Check the rear arches tho - susceptible to gathering crud and rotting away.

ZX10R NIN

30,521 posts

154 months

Jag_NE

3,339 posts

129 months

Saturday 4th January 2020
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Lol999 said:
Fundamentally there are plenty of older diesels out there with short daily runs experiencing no problems at all, it only seems to be the modern dpf laden things that get touchy. How do taxi's go on, there'sloads of standard diesel saloons stop starting, so are they dpf hamstrung or do they have a more frequent maintenance schedule?
My wife’s is a 2018 so it’s near enough latest and greatest and you are correct, most taxis (at least up here) are still diesel octavias, the penny pinching taxi firms would be using petrols if dpf’s were failing left right and centre. That’s a better indicator than anything you will get on here. PH has a cult like anti diesel following.

AppleJuice

2,165 posts

114 months

Saturday 4th January 2020
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Slightly (just) above your £2k budget, but if you don't need 7 seats and just a decent boot space/folding seats, try a Toyota Verso-S? Same 1.33-litre engine as a Yaris - same basic floorpan underneath but stretched (255 cm wheelbase) resulting in a lot of rear legroom. Plus, it has a raised driving position and ISOFIX in the rear seats. 51 mpg to boot (CVT auto 54 mpg, but asking prices are twice your budget).

As it's a Toyota it'll be pretty indestructible, too.

Lol999

Original Poster:

10 posts

81 months

Saturday 4th January 2020
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Well, I went and looked at another Zafira and the discomfort I was experiencing the other day was down to the clutch being so worn it was biting somewhere near my left ear it was travelling so high.
different story today, much better vehicle, good dealer chucking in the timing belt if it hasn't been changed already, 12 months mot and 3 months AA warrenty (fwiw?).
It's a petrol so no worrying about diesel disasters, job's a good 'un.

thanks for all the input.

Chris32345

2,141 posts

91 months

Saturday 4th January 2020
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500l they do a mpw version with 7 seats if needed