Can't find a hatch that I like (+ within budget)
Can't find a hatch that I like (+ within budget)
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romeodelta

1,149 posts

190 months

Wednesday 29th January 2020
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500 Abarth.

Ardennes1944

112 posts

94 months

Wednesday 29th January 2020
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Why do you want rid of the Civic? I cant imagine the other cars will be much cheaper to run that it? Especially when you add in the reliability of the FN2

designforlife

3,742 posts

192 months

Wednesday 29th January 2020
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You'll struggle to find anything more reliable tbh, FN2 civics are pretty bombproof

stargazer30

1,720 posts

195 months

Wednesday 29th January 2020
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I went from an FN2 to a mk7 fez ST. Cheaper tax, cheaper petrol, faster car (mountuned) and slightly less harsh suspension. Heated seats and quick clear windscreen and surprisingly roomy for a small car. Other than the boot not much difference space wise than an the FN2. Fits your budget too.

ChrisH72

3,075 posts

81 months

Wednesday 29th January 2020
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RS Mégane 250 cup?

Plenty of those are white with black wheels.

aka_kerrly

12,505 posts

239 months

Wednesday 29th January 2020
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prestige423 said:
I have a FN2 Type R atm,

I posted about wanting a scirocco 1.4 as I love the shape but was informed they are notorious for blowing up. The 2014 models are like £10k+ and a tad out of budget. A 2.0 would only be just slightly better than my current Type R.
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Notorious for blowing up is perhaps a bit of an exaggeration.

I presume when you say slightly better you are referring to on paper performance stats? The 2.0 turbo in the Scirocco has significantly more mid range performance which you'd use on a daily basis and can offer a more relaxed driving style . The interior all be it somewhat conventional compared to the spaceship style Civic is a worthwhile improvement. Service parts and maintenance is likely to be more or less the same as your Civic.


romeodelta said:
500 Abarth.
cheap to tax, decent mpg, good fun, shouldn't depreciate massively its an interesting suggestion

prestige423

Original Poster:

21 posts

80 months

Wednesday 29th January 2020
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aka_kerrly said:
cheap to tax, decent mpg, good fun, shouldn't depreciate massively its an interesting suggestion
Maybe a misnomer but i've joined in scirocco groups, forums and it seems apparent the 160 BHP 1.4 is a complete no go as there seems to be something up with the pistons causing the engines to fail. There is the 122 BHP variant which I am looking for but those are few and far between in white.

The 2.0 TSI, insurance wise i think will be the same as my type R or a bit less maybe. W.R.T fuel i meant it wouldn't be a massive improvement would it?

Basically I just want to drive like a granny in a nice looking hatch. Mind I have always had Hondas, and never had a VW so not sure what I'm getting myself into. But I can't find anything other than the scirocco that I like so it seems I might have to stretch my budget to a facelift (which would be silly as I'm not in a ideal position to be putting £10k+ cash on a car).

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Edited by prestige423 on Wednesday 29th January 12:36

mike9009

10,785 posts

272 months

Wednesday 29th January 2020
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How about a C30?

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

I don't know much about them other than a distant friend has one and raves about it ( not much of a recommendation!!)

Should give better mpg.

They do a 1.6 diesel which might suit better?


Mike

Olas

911 posts

86 months

Wednesday 29th January 2020
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Subscribe to the art of shedding.
A 10-15 year old corolla/civic is a very attractive car if you want cheap/reliable/easy to fix/happy to park it in supermarket car parks.

Running a cheap stter makes saving a lot easier too, so you can get something nice to keep in the garage a lot sooner than if your daily is newer/posher

ESD1711

390 posts

80 months

Wednesday 29th January 2020
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prestige423 said:
Other than the fact that i think the car is hideous (i have a champ white edition too) i dont really enjoy it either. You get sick of the high revving
Slightly off topic but im a bit intrigued by this part..... what made you buy a car you think is hideous?

prestige423

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21 posts

80 months

Wednesday 29th January 2020
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ESD1711 said:
Slightly off topic but im a bit intrigued by this part..... what made you buy a car you think is hideous?
looks like an egg rocket. Only became apparent months into ownership.

Torquey

1,956 posts

257 months

Wednesday 29th January 2020
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Why does it have have to be white?
That's very last decade. Maybe even the one before.

prestige423

Original Poster:

21 posts

80 months

Wednesday 29th January 2020
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Torquey said:
Why does it have have to be white?
That's very last decade. Maybe even the one before.
white is last decade yes, don't think the one before (red comes to mind).

Looks smart when scrubbed up.

DazzaSport

209 posts

95 months

Wednesday 29th January 2020
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Suzuki Swift Sport

aka_kerrly

12,505 posts

239 months

Wednesday 29th January 2020
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If you want to drive like a granny in a white Honda hatchback then buy a Jazz.

Warcloud36

67 posts

102 months

Saturday 1st February 2020
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I'm in a similar position, I think the value of the fn2 is hard to beat, which is why I bought mine.

23/24mpg seems pretty poor, I get 30mpg in the city when using 5 & 6 gears. Might be time to clean the air flower sensor inside the airbox. I had 23 mpg before I cleaned mine, average 29 in the winter months.


I only really found 2 cars,

Sirocco 2.0 TSI, this can probably do 35/40mpg,
Tax ranges from £145 a year to £235 depending if it's blue motion or not
180 to 207hp, remaps to around 250
Handles well and is actually fun to drive
Limited inside space so it's less practical than the fn2



Alfa Giulietta 1750 turbo,
30mpg I have heard so not great but remap to around 270hp
tax £145 to £260 depends on the year


The sirocco like said isn't a huge leap ahead of the fn2 on paper but Honda quoted 6.4s to 60 but most people get around 6.7 to 7s.
VW quoted 6.9s to 60 for the Sirocco 2.0 (207hp) but from what I have seen it's quite a lot faster than that, I have seen reviewers, proper car mags claiming they were getting very very low 6s.
DSG gearboxs are meant be to pretty reliable on the later models (after 2008 i think) which would be something that could warrant the upgrade from the fn2.
I love my FN2 but I don't like all the idiots sitting on my rear bumper expecting me to race them in their works diesel van or the fact that to have some fun you will see low 20 mpg, the vw will probably do 30mpg whilst having a spirited ride.


If you're not bothered about diesels then c180 or c220 is probably within your price range. 40+ mpg and tax is £130 a year but will probably lose out on depreciation.



Edited by Warcloud36 on Saturday 1st February 00:19

Lukas239

463 posts

125 months

Saturday 1st February 2020
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Surely best to save your 6/7k and buy something much cheaper. It doesn't have to be a shed.

Suzuki swift sport was a good shout above, otherwise Clio 1*2 are cheap and popular.

Or embrace your priorities and go full cheap, switch to a non-dpf diesel and save every penny as fast as you can. Might be a dive but hopefully a short term one.