Wanted - Big, Fast, Petrol... help please
Wanted - Big, Fast, Petrol... help please
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SBN

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1,030 posts

181 months

Monday 10th February 2020
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In need of a big family car, that is fast and rewarding enough when im on my own but comfortable loaded up for a family day out.

Immediate thoughts are as follows, which would be more ruinous at sub £30k, more like £20-25K

1. RS6 Avant
2. S6 Avant
2. E63 or CLS 63 estate 2013 etc.
3. E43 estate 2017
3. X5 M V8 twin turbo
4. X5 5litre V8
6. 535i or 550i f10 model

Should there be any i shouldnt look at from the above and equally is there any that i should include?

NO DIESEL.

Cheers

mikal83

5,340 posts

281 months

Monday 10th February 2020
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I've just bought a Forester XT with which I am very happy with.

randlemarcus

13,646 posts

260 months

Monday 10th February 2020
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Oddball, and carries some risk, but a Gen 1 Panamera is within budget.

SBN

Original Poster:

1,030 posts

181 months

Monday 10th February 2020
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/\ thanks but i want something a bit faster than that

Baldchap

9,623 posts

121 months

Monday 10th February 2020
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Cayenne Turbo?

willisit

2,185 posts

260 months

Monday 10th February 2020
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What about a B8 RS4? I'd avoid the older RS6s at that money, but the newer ones are mid-£40ks upwards. I have a B8 and it's wonder, and bonkers fast for a big estate.

BUG4LIFE

2,515 posts

247 months

Monday 10th February 2020
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At the end of the day, you probably can't go wrong with any of them. Maybe drop the SUV's as they may not as capable in the driving dept than the others...what about a Vauxhall VXR8 [a supercharged one]?

theboss

7,494 posts

248 months

Monday 10th February 2020
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F10 M5 is the obvious contender missing from that list.

SBN

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181 months

Monday 10th February 2020
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theboss said:
F10 M5 is the obvious contender missing from that list.
Yes, and im BMW through and through but is that an every day car... i have heard horror stories about that gearbox???

SBN

Original Poster:

1,030 posts

181 months

Monday 10th February 2020
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willisit said:
What about a B8 RS4? I'd avoid the older RS6s at that money, but the newer ones are mid-£40ks upwards. I have a B8 and it's wonder, and bonkers fast for a big estate.
These are a fantastic option, and i did look at them but we already have a skoda VRS estate (similar size) and i want to get something a bit bigger.

SBN

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181 months

Monday 10th February 2020
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Baldchap said:
Cayenne Turbo?
hmmm would have to be a newer shape one, are they any good?

randlemarcus

13,646 posts

260 months

Monday 10th February 2020
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SBN said:
Baldchap said:
Cayenne Turbo?
hmmm would have to be a newer shape one, are they any good?
A remarkable achievement to shift that much mass around, that fast, and be that connected to the road. If your failure to mention MPG wasn't an accident, you absolutely need to try one - preferably on a decent route that isn't urban dual carriageways to Sainsbury's and back, and with a forgiving salesman next to you.

Mr E

23,028 posts

288 months

Monday 10th February 2020
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theboss said:
F10 M5 is the obvious contender missing from that list.
Indeed, but balls of solid rock required to run one out of comprehensive warranty.
I bottled one. E500 for me.

SBN

Original Poster:

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181 months

Monday 10th February 2020
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randlemarcus said:
A remarkable achievement to shift that much mass around, that fast, and be that connected to the road. If your failure to mention MPG wasn't an accident, you absolutely need to try one - preferably on a decent route that isn't urban dual carriageways to Sainsbury's and back, and with a forgiving salesman next to you.
Yes, i think i looked and the combined was sub 20mpg on these.

I dont care too much about MPG but i do care about visiting the fuel pump twice a week for my normal 300miles a week

Baldchap

9,623 posts

121 months

Monday 10th February 2020
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I don't get 300 out of a tank on my B9 RS4, which presumably rules out the thirstier V8 B8.

Ritchie335is

2,119 posts

231 months

Monday 10th February 2020
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SBN said:
hmmm would have to be a newer shape one, are they any good?
I drove a friends one for a few days and it really surprised me (I had an E39 M5 at the time).
I planted the throttle from a dead stop entering a roundabout and I swear it feels like the front wheels are going to lift, the steering wheel went light as it ploughed straight on as the front wheels have no grip due to the weight transfer.
It's amazing that some so big can shift like that.

theboss

7,494 posts

248 months

Monday 10th February 2020
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SBN said:
Yes, and im BMW through and through but is that an every day car... i have heard horror stories about that gearbox???
You may be thinking of the E60 with its SMG. The DCT in the F10 is very usable and seems to be reliable. A lot of car now for £20-25k. I’ve done 135k in mine from new and think it’s been a fantastic daily drive and family car.

Edited by theboss on Monday 10th February 12:10

theboss

7,494 posts

248 months

Monday 10th February 2020
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Mr E said:
Indeed, but balls of solid rock required to run one out of comprehensive warranty.
I bottled one. E500 for me.
Understood. There will always be an element of risk with running any high performance car later in its life outside of warranty so barring buying something nearly new it’s something the OP will have to consider. I don’t think the F10 is a particularly unreliable car in its class, though granted my own experience is only anecdotal - failures do and will occur.

KrisP

624 posts

209 months

Monday 10th February 2020
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SBN said:
In need of a big family car, that is fast and rewarding enough when im on my own but comfortable loaded up for a family day out.

Immediate thoughts are as follows, which would be more ruinous at sub £30k, more like £20-25K

1. RS6 Avant
2. S6 Avant
2. E63 or CLS 63 estate 2013 etc.
3. E43 estate 2017
3. X5 M V8 twin turbo
4. X5 5litre V8
6. 535i or 550i f10 model

Should there be any i shouldnt look at from the above and equally is there any that i should include?

NO DIESEL.

Cheers
I have an E63 5.5TT estate as per the 3rd entry on your list. If you want fast, its definitely one for the list - I would say that an RS6 would be on par, but the others would not. The ability to pile on speed is pretty mind blowing.
Is it involving or rewarding as a proper sports car such as a 911, no, but I can carry the family and whole lot of kit which the Porsche cannot. The question is then around whether you want a lean towards the involvement of an M5, or the slightly softer attitude of the AMG IMO

Mr E

23,028 posts

288 months

Monday 10th February 2020
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theboss said:
Mr E said:
Indeed, but balls of solid rock required to run one out of comprehensive warranty.
I bottled one. E500 for me.
Understood. There will always be an element of risk with running any high performance car later in its life outside of warranty so barring buying something nearly new it’s something the OP will have to consider. I don’t think the F10 is a particularly unreliable car in its class, though granted my own experience is only anecdotal - failures do and will occur.
Nope, you’re right and I’m getting my model numbers confused. My “balls of solid rock” was directed at the E60 (and specifically at the V10 and SMG bits).

I’d be much happier taking on a F10 M5 with 2 reservations;
1) they didn’t make an estate
2) I can’t afford one.