Mk6 Golf GTI or Astra H VXR
Mk6 Golf GTI or Astra H VXR
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Yourbwoy19

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18 posts

83 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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Will be getting a new car probably after this virus has blown over, what would you say is better out of the two? GTI is more costly with less power but more reliability and probably more tuneable. The VXR is cheaper with more power from stock and not as tuneable and less reliable.

p4cks

7,479 posts

228 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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Standard, unless you're American.

In answer to your question though, I'd reluctantly go for the Golf. Neither are particularly special but from what I've seen of the Astras they're all shagged blowing white/blue smoke out of the back from blown turbos and worn seals

Yourbwoy19

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18 posts

83 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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There is a few astra’s up for sale at the mo that look in good condition, but yeah once they’re mapped you get all sorts of issues with them, gearbox, turbos. The only thing with the gti’s is that they’ve all got at least 70k miles on them

geeks

11,590 posts

168 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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To be fair the Astra H is a good 5 years older than the MK6 Golf, really you want to compare it to the Astra G in which case I would have the Astra over the Golf, its the better car despite the PH loathing of all Vauxhalls regardless of if they are actually good.

But if it is really between the H and the MK6, get the Golf it is miles ahead of the H. Although I think the H is the better looking car they are a little long in the teeth now and aren't as reliable.

matchmaker

9,032 posts

229 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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If the Astra VXR that my son owned was typical, they suffer from horrendous torque steer.

Yourbwoy19

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18 posts

83 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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I do love the look of atrsas and they sound sick, but its literally just the reliability of them that lets them down. Its a tough one. In my opinion i dont think mk6 gti’s look that nice but each to their own.

NewUsername

925 posts

85 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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The answer to any question is never " Buy the Vauxhall"....

p4cks

7,479 posts

228 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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yeah the Golf are not without their problems either, although I suspect they'll be a lot less than a smoky Astra which has been hammered about the council estate by someone called Gaz

Yourbwoy19

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18 posts

83 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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theres only 1 solution then, buy a astra vxr

Jimmy Recard

17,549 posts

208 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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geeks said:
To be fair the Astra H is a good 5 years older than the MK6 Golf, really you want to compare it to the Astra G in which case I would have the Astra over the Golf, its the better car despite the PH loathing of all Vauxhalls regardless of if they are actually good.

But if it is really between the H and the MK6, get the Golf it is miles ahead of the H. Although I think the H is the better looking car they are a little long in the teeth now and aren't as reliable.
I think you mean the Astra J. Astra G came out in 1998

geeks

11,590 posts

168 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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Jimmy Recard said:
geeks said:
To be fair the Astra H is a good 5 years older than the MK6 Golf, really you want to compare it to the Astra G in which case I would have the Astra over the Golf, its the better car despite the PH loathing of all Vauxhalls regardless of if they are actually good.

But if it is really between the H and the MK6, get the Golf it is miles ahead of the H. Although I think the H is the better looking car they are a little long in the teeth now and aren't as reliable.
I think you mean the Astra J. Astra G came out in 1998
Yes you are right, alphabet fail hehe

ZX10R NIN

30,521 posts

154 months

Saturday 21st March 2020
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The Astra H is to old to be compared to a MK6 GTI but if that's the two then I'd pick the Golf, now if you can stretch to a J then I'd be buying the J they're no less reliable & they're a nice place to be.

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anonymous-user

83 months

Saturday 21st March 2020
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The H was not exactly Vauxhall’s best car ever, although they should be dirt cheap. I’ve got a J VXR and firmly believe every now and then Vauxhall make a great car- and this is one of them. The J would be comparable to the MK6 Golf, and you should find a decent one for around 9k.

Dolf Stoppard

1,391 posts

151 months

Saturday 21st March 2020
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Did he really just say the Astra sounded 'sick'?

Yourbwoy19

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18 posts

83 months

Sunday 22nd March 2020
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alright dolf, no need

Driver101

14,451 posts

150 months

Sunday 22nd March 2020
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The Astra is far better looking and to drive if we are taking about the GTC model.

The older H wasn't so good.

Rick-fgpe0

112 posts

133 months

Sunday 22nd March 2020
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I had an Astra H VXR a while back. How fun it is depends on what you want it for and your previous experience.

They understeer horrifically, torque steer pretty strongly and do have turbo seal issues. I’d take a puny that the golf will be much more reliable.

That said, I loved it. It was mad, fast, the torque steer meant you were wrestling with it to keep it straight, and if you want to tune them there’s plenty of options.

Regus tuning in the south, Courtney motorport or Thorney motorsport we’re the go-to tuners back in 07 when I got mine. Basic starting point was eibach pro springs, precat decat and whiteline tear anti roll bar and stage 1 map. Once it’s lower and stiffer you can consider quaife LSD, coilovers, 3” exhaust, inter cooler and stage 2 map (can’t remember if you need to do something with the actuator and maf for stage 2), the stage 3 is trickier but silly power. Fast at the lights, sound and look cool, but a golf will still beat you on a B road.

Edit - also I was a hooligan 19 year old so I fitted the demographic. No real driving skill, straight line pulls at the lights, thought I was a driving god etc etc. Was the fastest car I’d had by miles which aided the pleasure. If you’re a proper good driver and it’s not your first 200+ bhp turbo then take a test drive before you get too invested. There’s a lot to like, but loads not to too.

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Edited by Rick-fgpe0 on Sunday 22 March 10:41

Yourbwoy19

Original Poster:

18 posts

83 months

Sunday 22nd March 2020
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Rick-fgpe0 said:
I had an Astra H VXR a while back. How fun it is depends on what you want it for and your previous experience.

They understeer horrifically, torque steer pretty strongly and do have turbo seal issues. I’d take a puny that the golf will be much more reliable.

That said, I loved it. It was mad, fast, the torque steer meant you were wrestling with it to keep it straight, and if you want to tune them there’s plenty of options.

Regus tuning in the south, Courtney motorport or Thorney motorsport we’re the go-to tuners back in 07 when I got mine. Basic starting point was eibach pro springs, precat decat and whiteline tear anti roll bar and stage 1 map. Once it’s lower and stiffer you can consider quaife LSD, coilovers, 3” exhaust, inter cooler and stage 2 map (can’t remember if you need to do something with the actuator and maf for stage 2), the stage 3 is trickier but silly power. Fast at the lights, sound and look cool, but a golf will still beat you on a B road.

Edit - also I was a hooligan 19 year old so I fitted the demographic. No real driving skill, straight line pulls at the lights, thought I was a driving god etc etc. Was the fastest car I’d had by miles which aided the pleasure. If you’re a proper good driver and it’s not your first 200+ bhp turbo then take a test drive before you get too invested. There’s a lot to like, but loads not to too.

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Edited by Rick-fgpe0 on Sunday 22 March 10:41
I’ve wanted a vxr for the longest time, it’s really just the problems that come along with them. A gti is just another choice i have in my price range but i’m not really too keen on the looks etc, and the fact i know a lot of people who own gti’s, so don’t want to be a sheep really.

Yourbwoy19

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18 posts

83 months

Sunday 22nd March 2020
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Is an astra worth the risk???

Rick-fgpe0

112 posts

133 months

Sunday 22nd March 2020
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If you’re set on a VXR, consider the limited runs (Nurburgring, arctic edition, vxr-r etc). May hold value better and be a bit more unique. There’s a nicer spec’ed Nurburgring stage 3 in the PH classified But has done 80 odd K now.

The insignia vxr was a very different car but I always like the look of them if I wasn’t dead set on a hatch.

What’s the budget? Is an S3 from similar year in scope? Or an old monaro if you want a V8 and to be different?