6 cylinders petrol, RWD, manual, 4-door saloon
Discussion
So if I want a 6 cylinders petrol, RWD, manual 4 door saloon, which is not too old, are my options limited to BMW and the Lexus IS250?
I would love something like they have in the states, V6, simple mechanics, RWD, manual. But can't think of anything this side of the world.
I'm honestly not very keen on the japanese saloon looks. A little too toy like as of lately. So is my option BMWs only?
An XE V6 manual would be great. But they only made manuals with the diesels. Same with many other saloons lately. Manuals are diesel only.
I would love something like they have in the states, V6, simple mechanics, RWD, manual. But can't think of anything this side of the world.
I'm honestly not very keen on the japanese saloon looks. A little too toy like as of lately. So is my option BMWs only?
An XE V6 manual would be great. But they only made manuals with the diesels. Same with many other saloons lately. Manuals are diesel only.
Yes, in that budget would be fine. 10-15K.
Would love one of the sporty petrol XEs. That's the styling I like. Clean and not so busy. But no manuals there.
10 years old I guess could be the limit.
V8 for a daily is a bit much. So would like to stay with a 6. I think it's a good compromise.
The Audis and Alfa are FWD or AWD only. I would like RWD.
Would love one of the sporty petrol XEs. That's the styling I like. Clean and not so busy. But no manuals there.
10 years old I guess could be the limit.
V8 for a daily is a bit much. So would like to stay with a 6. I think it's a good compromise.
The Audis and Alfa are FWD or AWD only. I would like RWD.
Edited by J4x4K on Wednesday 8th April 09:06
SWoll said:
MB have nothing V6 without auto, Audi FWD/AWD, Alfa Giulia not in budget, Jag XE all auto etc.
One of the tiny number of manual 330i/335i's available is really your only choice for a <10 year old car in budget I'd suggest.
Thanks. You mean if not considering Japanese, right?One of the tiny number of manual 330i/335i's available is really your only choice for a <10 year old car in budget I'd suggest.
And if considering Japanese, the IS is basically the only option as well? I think most others will be auto only.
By the way, petrol Giulias are auto only, even if it was in budget.
J4x4K said:
SWoll said:
MB have nothing V6 without auto, Audi FWD/AWD, Alfa Giulia not in budget, Jag XE all auto etc.
One of the tiny number of manual 330i/335i's available is really your only choice for a <10 year old car in budget I'd suggest.
Thanks. You mean if not considering Japanese, right?One of the tiny number of manual 330i/335i's available is really your only choice for a <10 year old car in budget I'd suggest.
And if considering Japanese, the IS is basically the only option as well? I think most others will be auto only.
By the way, petrol Giulias are auto only, even if it was in budget.
Did Mercedes ever make any manual 6 cylinder models to special order?
Just wondering as years ago my mate had a 1994 C280 Elegance that was manual, but when new it was a special order.
To be honest I have the same challenge finding 6 cylinder manual RWD cars, but probably more so as I don't want a turbo!
I think a Lexus IS250 is a good looking car, but it is Japanese which the OP doesn't want and they are all in Band M for Road Tax.
So while my 55 plate 330i was way under the OP's budget, it's also 5 years older than he wants.
But I love it!
Hope he finds something to fit the bill.
Just wondering as years ago my mate had a 1994 C280 Elegance that was manual, but when new it was a special order.
To be honest I have the same challenge finding 6 cylinder manual RWD cars, but probably more so as I don't want a turbo!
I think a Lexus IS250 is a good looking car, but it is Japanese which the OP doesn't want and they are all in Band M for Road Tax.
So while my 55 plate 330i was way under the OP's budget, it's also 5 years older than he wants.
But I love it!
Hope he finds something to fit the bill.
Martyn76 said:
100% not my colour.
But do the fake M cars carry any price premium? Don't much care for that and would rather have a normal trim if they do. If not, for free I'm fine.
SWoll said:
Assumed that might be the case with the Alfa but never got as far as checking. Already thrown out Japanese saloons as who wants one of those.
Well, but there really isn't anything besides the IS 250, is there? Even the next generation of IS is auto only. I think Nissan has no RWD 4 door saloons and we need to go to Infiniti for that? But they are also all auto I think? Honda and Mazda have zero RWD cars. So what else japanese is there?Mr Tidy said:
Did Mercedes ever make any manual 6 cylinder models to special order?
Just wondering as years ago my mate had a 1994 C280 Elegance that was manual, but when new it was a special order.
To be honest I have the same challenge finding 6 cylinder manual RWD cars, but probably more so as I don't want a turbo!
I think a Lexus IS250 is a good looking car, but it is Japanese which the OP doesn't want and they are all in Band M for Road Tax.
So while my 55 plate 330i was way under the OP's budget, it's also 5 years older than he wants.
But I love it!
Hope he finds something to fit the bill.
The 90's Mercedes could be had with the straight six and a manual. I think this was the last time.Just wondering as years ago my mate had a 1994 C280 Elegance that was manual, but when new it was a special order.
To be honest I have the same challenge finding 6 cylinder manual RWD cars, but probably more so as I don't want a turbo!
I think a Lexus IS250 is a good looking car, but it is Japanese which the OP doesn't want and they are all in Band M for Road Tax.
So while my 55 plate 330i was way under the OP's budget, it's also 5 years older than he wants.
But I love it!
Hope he finds something to fit the bill.
Yes, I agree the IS 250 is a very good looking car. Specially the IS-F. But that is auto only and also a V8, which I really don't need as a daily. But the IS 250 is nice looking for sure.
It's most of the others and newer japanese cars that I don't like much. Because they are going more and more ridiculous with the design. Lexus too. The grills and fronts are getting to clown levels of ridiculous with the very new Lexus cars. But BMW and Audi too. Mercedes is still ok.
J4x4K said:
Martyn76 said:
100% not my colour.But do the fake M cars carry any price premium? Don't much care for that and would rather have a normal trim if they do. If not, for free I'm fine.
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That's a tough one. You might be right that apart from BMWs, the IS250 is the only one in budget. The Infinitis are definitely all automatics.
Even with any budget, I think the only other one to add is the Giulia Quadrifoglio, if you live in Europe. In Europe they are available with 3 pedals. In the UK and US that is also automatic only.
I think this is a big part of the reason BMW is able to continue to sell their ugly newer generation cars. They have almost no competition in the RWD + manual niche.
Even with any budget, I think the only other one to add is the Giulia Quadrifoglio, if you live in Europe. In Europe they are available with 3 pedals. In the UK and US that is also automatic only.
I think this is a big part of the reason BMW is able to continue to sell their ugly newer generation cars. They have almost no competition in the RWD + manual niche.
Edited by Shifter1 on Thursday 9th April 21:05
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Gareth1974 said:
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I like that! 
I owned a IS250 make sure you go for the SE-L spec with Full Lexus. If your interested in one I know of one £5k 09 plate with 75k and Full Lexus Service History. It’s had a new battery, alternator, rear callipers, brakes all round tyres with 5.0mm of tread, Air Con Regassed and Carbon Body Cleaned. DM me if interested.
rdb85 said:
I owned a IS250 make sure you go for the SE-L spec with Full Lexus. If your interested in one I know of one £5k 09 plate with 75k and Full Lexus Service History. It’s had a new battery, alternator, rear callipers, brakes all round tyres with 5.0mm of tread, Air Con Regassed and Carbon Body Cleaned. DM me if interested.
Why not share some of your ownership experience with the OP, instead of just a sales pitch? cerb4.5lee said:
Gareth1974 said:
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cerb4.5lee said:
Gareth1974 said:
Except being a V8, rather than a V6, this ticks a lot of boxes https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
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