Part ex agreed, my car now faulty
Part ex agreed, my car now faulty
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AugustusBloop

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1 posts

73 months

Friday 14th August 2020
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Evening all, I'm new here and would appreciate some help on my dilemma ..
I put a deposit down on an approved used Golf from my local dealership last weekend and they've have been prepping the car this week so I'm due to collect it middle of next week.

As part of the deal they offered to give me 5000 for my old car (mini) which I feel is a good price given the Golf is a little overpriced.

Anyway this week my car has developed a rather loud rattling/knocking sound from the engine on start up and when at slower speeds.
No engine warning lights are on and the car seems to run fine other than this noise. A work mate listened and thought it may be the timing chain tensioner? I know very little about cars so have no idea.

Would be great if somebody could advise if I'd be better off getting this fixed privately out my own pocket or declaring it to the dealer when he inspects the car and taking the hit on the PX price? Never PX'd before so no idea how much would be knocked off or what the standard practice is...

Cheers!

loskie

7,074 posts

149 months

Friday 14th August 2020
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Just hand it to them AND SAY NOWT


They are supposedly the professionals.

BUT still check the car you are buying over meticulously .

Koltu

26 posts

75 months

Friday 14th August 2020
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loskie said:
Just hand it to them AND SAY NOWT


They are supposedly the professionals.

BUT still check the car you are buying over meticulously .
This. It’ll be straight into auction anyway. Doubt they’ll even start it on your collection day.

mcg_

1,454 posts

121 months

Friday 14th August 2020
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Park it in the car park and I very much doubt they'll start it when you're there

dhutch

17,663 posts

226 months

Friday 14th August 2020
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This all day long.

Also, don't drive your car unless you have to in the intervening days, because timing chains are important!


Daniel

roadsmash

2,667 posts

99 months

Friday 14th August 2020
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Yeah that’s it lads, just chuck a st heap back into the dealer network. You won’t have to pay for it so it’s not your problem to worry about, right?

No wonder the used car market is a shambles with people like you about.

DoubleD

22,154 posts

137 months

Friday 14th August 2020
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roadsmash said:
Yeah that’s it lads, just chuck a st heap back into the dealer network. You won’t have to pay for it so it’s not your problem to worry about, right?

No wonder the used car market is a shambles with people like you about.
Ha ha

dhutch

17,663 posts

226 months

Friday 14th August 2020
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You love it.

Nickp82

3,940 posts

122 months

Friday 14th August 2020
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That’s quite a big issue to be trying to keep on the DL. Do a little research on cost of cambelt tensioner replacement, ‘fess up to dealer, be prepared to have the PX value adjusted by an amount similar to cost of repair work, leave with new car and clear conscience.

stevemcs

10,261 posts

122 months

Friday 14th August 2020
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Don't drive it, get the tensioner done. They are about £100 from Mini and around 1 hour to fit. Trying to scam the dealer is likely to result in you ending up with a Mini being towed to the scrap yard and no new Golf.

Oh and water pumps and aux belts can sound horrible on the Mini when they fail.

55palfers

6,355 posts

193 months

Friday 14th August 2020
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Cars know when they are for the chop don't they......

TheDrownedApe

1,761 posts

85 months

Saturday 15th August 2020
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I handed in my 4yo bmw as px back to a bmw deadership. Deal done over the phone. I went to collect and they never looked at mine, just asked for the keys and where I had parked it.

I guess I have a trusting face.

Its a tough call OP but I would say something. Karma can be a bh

anonymous-user

83 months

Saturday 15th August 2020
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Get it fixed, don't drive it until you do. Don't try to scam anyone as suggested by a couple of idiots further up.

Its just bad luck.

syl

693 posts

104 months

Saturday 15th August 2020
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It’s bad luck alright - but theirs, if they’ve already appraised the car.

It’s not like you’ve crashed it.

anonymous-user

83 months

Saturday 15th August 2020
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syl said:
It’s bad luck alright - but theirs, if they’ve already appraised the car.

It’s not like you’ve crashed it.
No, it's the OPs bad luck, they haven't bought it yet and if he drives it and the cambelt goes the car will be into scrap territory. Best idea is to get it repaired, nobody gets scammed and the sale doesn't get cancelled when the dealer finds out causing hassle and heartache.

Drooles

1,522 posts

85 months

Saturday 15th August 2020
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I was in a similar situation a few years ago, except mine was bodywork damage and not mechanical. You may well be better off getting the car fixed to avoid it potentially becoming a lot worse.

For what it’s worth, I rang the dealer to explain the damage and they weren’t worried and did not adjust the trade in price. Very decent of them, I thought.

itcaptainslow

4,691 posts

165 months

Saturday 15th August 2020
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syl said:
It’s bad luck alright - but theirs, if they’ve already appraised the car.

It’s not like you’ve crashed it.
Flipping it around, if the OP collected the Golf and it had a problem, but the dealer said “Well, it was fine when you test drove it”, PistonHeads would be up in arms.

Matt_E_Mulsion

1,746 posts

94 months

Saturday 15th August 2020
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If you trade it in with its current problem and say nothing, drive away in your Golf thinking you've got away with it...

Then subsequently find an issue with your Golf - No doubt you'll be expecting the dealer to fix it.

If I was the dealer and you pulled this stunt on me I'd throw every obstacle in front of you to avoid fixing your 'new' Golf.

wiliferus

4,214 posts

227 months

Saturday 15th August 2020
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If it’s knocking, i doubt it’ll be the cam chain.
Is it a 1.6 petrol Cooper?
If so I’d wager it’s the poly V belt tensioner. Literally sounds like the big end has gone if the tensioner fails, particularly at low revs.
It’s a fairly minor job. So it depends on your conscience really? The mere fact you’ve posted it here suggests you’re worried that the deal will go wrong because of it. Have a chat with your local Indy and get it done on the hurry up.

ZX10R NIN

30,512 posts

154 months

Saturday 15th August 2020
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Get it repaired & stop driving it until you do if that fully fails & your belt goes your engine is toast then you have no deal at all.

Find your nearest Indy get it into them & get it sorted.

I take if you have an issue with the Golf you'd want it sorted?

OP you already know you should get it repaired so book it in.